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Interest in Odom
Posted: Wed Jul 1, 2009 3:47 pm
by NBAWestFan
I think the spurs would hurt the Lakers with Odom.
doesn't make sense for Phoenix to sign him for 4 years but for three he is worth the Lakers too.
Lakers should sign him if he wants 4 years at 10 mil
Odom is a good rebounder and now a champ. He is worth 3 years but because of his good faith and good play keep a 4th would be worth paying to win 2 or 4 more championships.
At 11 he is worth 3years
At 12 mill he is expensive and Artest should be sought or they should have been after Boozer.
Re: Interest in Odom
Posted: Wed Jul 1, 2009 3:53 pm
by Dr Aki
yeh, except how do the spurs or suns get so far under the salary cap to sign odom??
spurs and suns arent among the teams with the capspace to make a run at odom with anything more than the MLE
lakers arent doing S&Ts with those teams
not to mention lamar's reluctance to leave the beaches and championships in LA
Re: Interest in Odom
Posted: Wed Jul 1, 2009 4:39 pm
by AmusingFiddle
I heard on 710 ESPN that there are ONLY 4/6 teams with enough cap space to offer Ariza & Odom a deal. Guess what they are going after other players. All other teams are making speculative or strategic moves by having a discussion with Ariza & Odom.
Mitch is a patient fellow. I don't think he will read too much into / give into the false hype created by so called interested teams. I think we can have Ariza for around $6MM & Odom for around $8MM.
Re: Interest in Odom
Posted: Wed Jul 1, 2009 4:40 pm
by TonyParker
This is just bad writing from the LA Times. I would love for Odom to join the Spurs, but we have absolutely no way of acquiring him. It looks like there won't be much competition for his services, pretty safe bet that he stays in LA.
Re: Interest in Odom
Posted: Wed Jul 1, 2009 4:40 pm
by hermes
well the suns are in the process of selling off the farm
but the spurs just got jefferson, so i don't think they could pull it off
Re: Interest in Odom
Posted: Wed Jul 1, 2009 4:55 pm
by DubaLakers
TParker
Ginobili
RJ
Odom
TD
Yikes!
Re: Interest in Odom
Posted: Wed Jul 1, 2009 6:42 pm
by Jajwanda
The Spurs cannot get him. There isn't a single fit that could make it happen at all.
The Suns cannot just get Wallace off the books and sign him, so it would have to either be an Amare trade for Morrison+Odom or a Barbosa+goodies trade. I would be in favor of the Barbosa idea if worst comes to worst but clearly if Detroit blows its wad on Villanueva, Toronto has no interest, Portland signs Turkoglu only Memphis (who will get Lee) and then subsequently Oklahoma City would have interest.
There's no one that will sign Odom, plain and simple. He'll be back it's pretty clear unless Pheonix finds a third team that wants to trade us a great SF, I mean great.
Re: Interest in Odom
Posted: Wed Jul 1, 2009 8:43 pm
by Asianiac_24
I think you HAVE to sign Odom. Without Odom, we'd get killed on the boards night in and night out. Guaranteed. Sign him, even if it goes up to 10+ mil.
Re: Interest in Odom
Posted: Wed Jul 1, 2009 9:37 pm
by hermes
Jajwanda wrote:The Spurs cannot get him. There isn't a single fit that could make it happen at all.
The Suns cannot just get Wallace off the books and sign him, so it would have to either be an Amare trade for Morrison+Odom or a Barbosa+goodies trade. I would be in favor of the Barbosa idea if worst comes to worst but clearly if Detroit blows its wad on Villanueva, Toronto has no interest, Portland signs Turkoglu only Memphis (who will get Lee) and then subsequently Oklahoma City would have interest.
There's no one that will sign Odom, plain and simple. He'll be back it's pretty clear unless Pheonix finds a third team that wants to trade us a great SF, I mean great.
like Lebron?
Re: Interest in Odom
Posted: Wed Jul 1, 2009 11:30 pm
by Mr. Sun
Jajwanda wrote:The Suns cannot just get Wallace off the books and sign him
Sure they can, why they traded for him. Suns won't have no problem getting below the cap to go after him (if wallace retires as expected) if that's their goal (no strong evidence that it is yet).
Re: Interest in Odom
Posted: Wed Jul 1, 2009 11:35 pm
by daddyfivestar
That would require Big Ben to retire this week or next... doubtful. He'll probably wait until at least training camp to make a final decision, because if he's going to bail out on that fat contract it better be worth it to save his long term health.
Re: Interest in Odom
Posted: Thu Jul 2, 2009 12:26 am
by Jajwanda
Incorrect from all I've read his salary still stays on the cap but they are reimbursed as the Knicks have been with Mobley.
Re: Interest in Odom
Posted: Thu Jul 2, 2009 12:47 am
by Mr. Sun
Jajwanda wrote:Incorrect from all I've read his salary still stays on the cap but they are reimbursed as the Knicks have been with Mobley.
Only the amount of the buyout remains against salary.
Re: Interest in Odom
Posted: Thu Jul 2, 2009 12:57 am
by Jajwanda
But wait it's a retirement?
Re: Interest in Odom
Posted: Thu Jul 2, 2009 2:42 am
by daddyfivestar
The salary doesn't count against the cap in a retirement situation if the player is not receiving it. The only part against the cap is whatever $ were agreed on for a buyout. There have been cases where teams paid in full the $ even though the player retired, but that'd usually be if insurance was paying the bulk of it and not the team. But Ben isn't making that decision right now anyway so it doesn't matter, the FAs will be gone by the time he does.
To Odom - I don't think LA can go 10m or even 9+ comfortably without definitely losing Ariza. If Phoenix really wants to give the 30yo LO a 4y/40m deal I say go for it sign n trade. It'll free up an extra to keep the 23yo Ariza for 5yrs.
Barbosa+RoLo+1st for LO+Farmar+mem 2nd, gives LA versatile young tall guard who might be super for the Tri, imagine Leo, Kobe, Ariza athletic trio. RoLo replaces the backup PF minutes and can spell Bynum at C so that Pau doesn't have to as much, and flip what looks to be an early end for a mid 1st.
Most importantly frees up a few more million to keep Ariza and can now go 7m if needed, and keep Brown. Still have Ammo to move if anything else is needed.
Leo/Fish/Brown
Kobe/(Leo)/Sasha
Ariza/Luke/(Kobe)
Pau/RoLo/Powell
Bynum/(RoLo)/DJ/Elonu
And puts the guard corps in good hands when Fish retires next.
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