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My solution for Lakers on and off court

Posted: Mon Jul 6, 2009 5:23 pm
by Dexmor
Lakers need to keep Odom. There is no away around it. Without Odom we don't know if this offseason we got alot worse or not. With Odom we become the best team I have ever seen in my life. Maybe best team in history. 5 championships in a row if healthy.

Our problem is money and pg. The answer is simple.

Make Kobe the pg.
1.Kobe has been playing his whole career anyway and scoring 30 points.
2.He always brings up the ball.
3.This time he will have 4 options and will not be tired.
4.It will be like a pg playing in the allstar game. Kid in the candy store. Also he would be the best pg in the league.
5.He is clearly one of the best leaders and playmakers in the league and with Artest and Bynum needing leadership why not have Kobe as the pg.
6.Kobe would average 20 and 10.
7.Kobe would love to lead the league in assists after all that selfish talk a few years ago.
8.Odom can start so instead of paying him to sit on the bench we would be paying him to be a starter.
9.Can you imagine Kobe having a 5 inch advantage every night. Even the best pg's would dreed playing the Lakers more then anybody. Lets say they beat him off the dribble, they have to get by Artest and if they do that then the twin towers of Bynum, Gasol and maybe even the 6'10 sf Odom. That's a nightmare. Also we would have a height and size advantage at every position every single night. Artest can post every sg and Odom every sf. That's not to mention our twin towers.
10.Artest and Odom are both ballhandlers and playmakers so anytime they want to take Kobe off the ball they can.
11.They don't have any real pg's anyway. No pg's on the Lakers make plays. There just shooters. The real playmakers are Kobe, Artest, Odom. Fisher is a good leader.
12.Starting can entice Odom to sign and he is a very unselfish player and will keep the pace uptempo.



Those are the basketball reasons. From a money standpoint, we can have Fisher and Sun Yue as our backup's and Sasha as our backup sg if they offer Brown decent money. Then we can just get a Koby Carl as the 3rd sg. Then the money wouldn't be a problem.
Also I have a feeling none of our starters will average more then 30 mins as we blow out every team
We need Artest and Odom for this plan to work. Even if we keep Kobe as sg we still need to sign Artest and Odom to win 5 championships in a row including this one and I think we can.

Re: My solution for Lakers on and off court

Posted: Mon Jul 6, 2009 5:31 pm
by Danny Darko
I specifically wouldn't want the wear and tear on him of having to carry the ball up all the time, not to mention chase the leagues speed demons around all night long. I'd rather trust Jordan to start pulling his head of of his ass like the year he was motivated by Javaris's competition.

Re: My solution for Lakers on and off court

Posted: Mon Jul 6, 2009 5:51 pm
by LAKE_SHOW_GM
That's a lineup i think we'll see in alot of 4th quarters come playoff time, but I agree farmar has to play up to his potential or he might get a kick in the ass from Artest.

Re: My solution for Lakers on and off court

Posted: Mon Jul 6, 2009 7:04 pm
by djericho
1. resign odom
2. resign brown - taller athletic guard. His athleticism will make up for some difference against the quicker elite guards because he can recover and contest the shot.
3. get better play from Farmar and Bynum. Farmar needs to up his defense, put the offense on the back burner. Bynum needs to find the confidence he had earlier before the injuries and become a dominant force in the middle that we need to block and contest shots.

Re: My solution for Lakers on and off court

Posted: Mon Jul 6, 2009 7:12 pm
by Kirk Moon
solution for what?

we just won the Ring.

Re: My solution for Lakers on and off court

Posted: Mon Jul 6, 2009 7:37 pm
by USA
Dexmor wrote:With Odom we become the best team I have ever seen in my life. Maybe best team in history.

LOL.
Your posts are always pure gold.

Re: My solution for Lakers on and off court

Posted: Mon Jul 6, 2009 8:02 pm
by mikedeezy2k9
i want to a see a lineup of kobe,artest,odom,pau,bynum atleast once this season

Re: My solution for Lakers on and off court

Posted: Mon Jul 6, 2009 8:58 pm
by Dexmor
Danny Darko wrote:I specifically wouldn't want the wear and tear on him of having to carry the ball up all the time, not to mention chase the leagues speed demons around all night long. I'd rather trust Jordan to start pulling his head of of his ass like the year he was motivated by Javaris's competition.



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Yeah but Kobe brings up the ball anyway and Phil doesn't seem to care about that. He always makes Kobe carry the ball up.
Plus we have Artest so Artest can guard the better of the 1/2 and besides Kobe doesn't have to completely lock down his man with all the shotblockers we have.
I can imagine he will have wear and tear playing pg with a team were he can throw it to anybody and they can score on there own and the starters will probably only have to play 30 minutes. How many blowouts are there gonna be?

Re: My solution for Lakers on and off court

Posted: Mon Jul 6, 2009 9:00 pm
by Dexmor
USA wrote:
Dexmor wrote:With Odom we become the best team I have ever seen in my life. Maybe best team in history.

LOL.
Your posts are always pure gold.


Don't play devils advicate and just make a debate to do it but honestly name a team who you think is better assuming Odom signs also.

Re: My solution for Lakers on and off court

Posted: Mon Jul 6, 2009 9:08 pm
by Danny Darko
No, actually kobe rarely took the ball up until the 4th last year. Fish, Odom, and even Farmar/brown all did the bulk of the handling on the way up.

Re: My solution for Lakers on and off court

Posted: Mon Jul 6, 2009 9:27 pm
by TonyMontana
USA wrote:
Dexmor wrote:With Odom we become the best team I have ever seen in my life. Maybe best team in history.

LOL.
Your posts are always pure gold.

:lol:
Oh you shouldve been here years ago when Drexmor aka Star24 first joined this board........ :wink:
He actually has more threads locked than doors on homes that went into foreclosures in American history, but he's cool.

Re: My solution for Lakers on and off court

Posted: Mon Jul 6, 2009 9:30 pm
by Dexmor
Danny Darko wrote:No, actually kobe rarely took the ball up until the 4th last year. Fish, Odom, and even Farmar/brown all did the bulk of the handling on the way up.



He took it up alot. He always has. Plus like I said he doesn't even need to take it up every time like a normal pg with Odom and Artest both being point forwards and the triangle.
I just don't think it's alot of wear and tear on a player when you have an offense like the trianlge so it's not pg dependint and none of the players need plays anything but a regular pass and then they can create. It's like a pg playing in an allstar game. Those pg's don't get tired. I can see a pg like Paul getting tired who needs to score all the points and make all the plays or a Kidd who makes all the plays and brings it up every single time or even an AI scoring pg but in this situation? This is a total exception.
Im was always cursing Phil out and wanted a different coach because unlike MJ he had Kobe take up the ball and play D on the best player. This is different.

Now if they do keep Kobe at sg and let Artest guard the other teams best player and have the pg and Odom and Artest bring up the ball and Kobe just in the 4th it is true Kobe would probably be able to play until he was 50. I wouldn't be screaming play him at pg I just think it would work and if signing Odom is a problem money wise this might help.

Re: My solution for Lakers on and off court

Posted: Mon Jul 6, 2009 9:48 pm
by USA
TonyMontana wrote:
USA wrote:
Dexmor wrote:With Odom we become the best team I have ever seen in my life. Maybe best team in history.

LOL.
Your posts are always pure gold.

:lol:
Oh you shouldve been here years ago when Drexmor aka Star24 first joined this board........ :wink:
He actually has more threads locked than doors on homes that went into foreclosures in American history, but he's cool.

Oh, I was. I just had a different screen name.

Re: My solution for Lakers on and off court

Posted: Mon Jul 6, 2009 9:50 pm
by TonyMontana
Dexmor wrote:
Danny Darko wrote:No, actually kobe rarely took the ball up until the 4th last year. Fish, Odom, and even Farmar/brown all did the bulk of the handling on the way up.



He took it up alot. He always has. Plus like I said he doesn't even need to take it up every time like a normal pg with Odom and Artest both being point forwards and the triangle.
I just don't think it's alot of wear and tear on a player when you have an offense like the trianlge so it's not pg dependint and none of the players need plays anything but a regular pass and then they can create. It's like a pg playing in an allstar game. Those pg's don't get tired. I can see a pg like Paul getting tired who needs to score all the points and make all the plays or a Kidd who makes all the plays and brings it up every single time or even an AI scoring pg but in this situation? This is a total exception.
Im was always cursing Phil out and wanted a different coach because unlike MJ he had Kobe take up the ball and play D on the best player. This is different.

Now if they do keep Kobe at sg and let Artest guard the other teams best player and have the pg and Odom and Artest bring up the ball and Kobe just in the 4th it is true Kobe would probably be able to play until he was 50. I wouldn't be screaming play him at pg I just think it would work and if signing Odom is a problem money wise this might help.


Drex what are you talking about brah.
If this entire board is telling you that Kobe doesnt handle the ball upcourt then take our word for it. We dont need to lie to you brah. You obviously arent watching all the Lakers game casue if you did then you would argue about what we see every Laker game.
He doesnt take the ball up until the 4th qt OR if time is running out or shot clock is running down (2 for 1s) or we are up and teams need to foul to stop the clock or in a few occasions when the play is running through Kobe......... THATS the only time Kobe takes the ball up.

Re: My solution for Lakers on and off court

Posted: Mon Jul 6, 2009 9:54 pm
by USA
Dexmor wrote:
USA wrote:
Dexmor wrote:With Odom we become the best team I have ever seen in my life. Maybe best team in history.

LOL.
Your posts are always pure gold.


Don't play devils advicate and just make a debate to do it but honestly name a team who you think is better assuming Odom signs also.

Are you being serious? You really don't think there is a team in NBA history better then this laker team? lol. One could probably argue the Celtics team from 2 seasons ago was better. As much as I HATE the Celtics, yea, it can be argued. Hell, it can probably also be argued that next years Celtics team could be better with the addition of Sheed.

OK just to amuse myself, you ever heard of showtime, and I am not talking about the cable channel.

Re: My solution for Lakers on and off court

Posted: Mon Jul 6, 2009 10:02 pm
by LLcoleJ
Kobe doesn't always bring the ball up. In fact, he doesn't do that much unless it's crunch time.

Re: My solution for Lakers on and off court

Posted: Mon Jul 6, 2009 10:12 pm
by Dexmor
Im not just talking about this year. I know the post was really long but I explained it all. I said for the past 13 years. I know Kobe brought it up alot. More then he should. Less this year yes.

Re: My solution for Lakers on and off court

Posted: Mon Jul 6, 2009 10:22 pm
by hermes
i've seen Odom bring the ball up a few times, we should sign him and make him the pg

Re: My solution for Lakers on and off court

Posted: Tue Jul 7, 2009 12:44 am
by TonyMontana
:roll:

Re: My solution for Lakers on and off court

Posted: Tue Jul 7, 2009 11:27 pm
by The Laker Kid
Dexmor wrote:Lakers need to keep Odom. There is no away around it.


There is a way around it. How about we let him walk away and actually save money?