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Do you think Shannon Brown or Jordan Farmar are the future pg's of this team?

I don't see either one having starting potential. I think they both make good back ups but not starters.

I'm interested in seeing what you guys think of this.

chris brown is the future

lakers wanted him at #17 in 2006, cavs took him at #16

i see a trevor ariza type story developing from shannon brown

I don't see either of them a starter or the future. I see Farmar as a starter for someone else though. The guy has talent but is slowed by the triangle.

I see Brown as a career backup and an energy/matchup guy which isn't a bad thing because you need those players to win rings.

Any PG can start on this team and be successful. We don't need Jason Kidd out there. All we need is someone that can hit 3-pointers at around 40%, play decent defense, and bring the ball down the court to set up the offense (as in, dumping the ball off to one of our wing players after crossing half court -- how hard is that?).

Derek Fisher has been a starter on a team that has reached the NBA Finals 5 times, so that should you all that you need to know.

Farmar and Brown are adequate for us, considering how stacked we are everywhere else.

I don't know but my personal opinion is that Farmar's days with the Lakers are numbered...
I just have a feeling he's going to be packaged either for a piece we need or as a way to trim costs. I think Sasha is the first to go but Farmar is going too... I don't think that'll hurt Farmar's feelings at all either... It doesn't seem to me that he really digs his role here anyway...

The jury's still out on Shannon Brown...
There were stretches in the playoffs and finals where I thought he was doing as good a job as anyone at filling that role for us, albeit for relatively short periods of time...
But I'm not sure his BBall IQ and court vision are where we need them to be at PG.
Time will tell...

Frankly, I'd be surprised if we don't move one or both of them (+Sasha) for a legit PG (prospect?)...
I think we're looking for a legit talent who isn't due the big payday yet, to learn under Fish...
Maybe that's SBrown...

I'm hopeful of Shannon Brown as a PG prospect. He's done nothing to suggest he can't do it. Needs a little more experience and poise on the defensive end before he can maneuver Fisher out of starters minutes.

I think we'll do just fine with Shannon and Fisher as our PG rotation. Even though I think both Farmar and Sasha will have better seasons than the previous, I wouldn't be surprised to see them traded.

Yeah, I find myself favoring Shannon as well. If his 3-point shooting isn't a fluke then he will be perfect for us. His defense isn't too shabby and I think playing on a team of veterans will help him tremendously, especially on the defensive end.

I actually like Farmar because I think he's one of the few guys on our team that can handle pressure (he has a real knack for hitting buzzer-beaters), but he can be a bit, well, uninvolved. Sometimes his defensive intensity isn't there either. Regardless, he's one of the few assets that we have and he is really the key to us getting rid of Sasha. There is no way anyone would take Vujacic off of our hands otherwise, and I think Farmar can be a starter on plenty of teams, so I too wouldn't be surprised if he was gone by mid-season.

I wouldnt mind rolling with a Brown/Farmar rotation after Fish retires. Each of them has different good qualities about them and both can be decent to good 3 point shooters. Both have good athleticism (Shannon's is quite incredible actually)

that said it could get expensive keeping all 3 around while waiting for Fish to retire and if another team is willing to take on Sasha but only if they get Farmar then I'd have to let go of him

Aki wrote:chris brown is the future

lakers wanted him at #17 in 2006, cavs took him at #16

i see a trevor ariza type story developing from shannon brown

I see Brown having an Ariza type season as well. He will be great for us just like Trevor was. He could give us what we have wanted to see for a while as a PG just like Trevor did as a SF. We were pretty weak at the 3 spot and all of a sudden Trevor emerged as our answer. The only thing I am afraid of is Brown spurring a lot of interest just like Ariza did. The reason why I am afraid is because he has a player option and he could opt to go after some big money somewhere else.

For Brown to be our future pg we would have to always run the triangle, more likely scenerio is backup combo guard. Farmar is a mystery to me.

Depends what scheme the Lakers do after Phil retires...

I can see Brown being starting material (see Ron Harper, BJ Armstrong, Derek Fisher), Farmar I don't think so in the triangle.

In a more motion offense, Farmar (if he gets his defense up) would start over Brown. @ PG they would be servicable with a lineup of Kobe, Artest, Gasol, and Bynum.

I think Kirk Hinrich is the future PG. On a serious note, I only think Brown has starting potential. I think this is Farmar's last year whether he leaves as a FA or gets traded at the deadline. I see Brown though as a great back-up to whoever is going to be the starting PG.

I don't think you can just go from sg to starting pg unless they are running the triangle and Phil stays or the next coach is triangle.

This might be just my hope but I honestly think Farmar will have a semi breakout year and would be a great fit to be our pg of the future.

Farmar, no way

but Brown, i can see him turning into a 13-14 ppg game player

s3antana5757 wrote:I think Kirk Hinrich is the future PG. On a serious note, I only think Brown has starting potential. I think this is Farmar's last year whether he leaves as a FA or gets traded at the deadline. I see Brown though as a great back-up to whoever is going to be the starting PG.

Kirk is a point guard who I think most fans would welcome with open arms. His game satisfies this teams needs. A defensive point guard who can shoot the 3 is what we need and he is that. The guy took a back seat to Derek Rose and I'm sure he would love to have a starting job on a team like L.A. Heck he's playing a 6th man role over in Chicago and I don't think he would have much of a problem doing the same on a championship caliber team like the Lakers.

I just can't see Farmar being a capable starter on the Lakers or else he would have earned the starting job on the Lakers. Brown doesn't seem like much of a starter either. I like to think of him as a guy who you bring of the bench to keep things alive when the starters need rest. I could be wrong about Brown because thats how most people felt about Ariza and he did great for us as a starter.

Aki wrote:chris brown is the future

lakers wanted him at #17 in 2006, cavs took him at #16

Dude Shannon Brown was taken 25th by the Cavs in the 1st in 2006. Jordan was taken 26th in the same round. Lakers or Cavs didn't have picks that high in 2006.

Kirk is a point guard who I think most fans would welcome with open arms. His game satisfies this teams needs. A defensive point guard who can shoot the 3 is what we need and he is that. The guy took a back seat to Derek Rose and I'm sure he would love to have a starting job on a team like L.A. Heck he's playing a 6th man role over in Chicago and I don't think he would have much of a problem doing the same on a championship caliber team like the Lakers.

I just can't see Farmar being a capable starter on the Lakers or else he would have earned the starting job on the Lakers. Brown doesn't seem like much of a starter either. I like to think of him as a guy who you bring of the bench to keep things alive when the starters need rest. I could be wrong about Brown because thats how most people felt about Ariza and he did great for us as a starter.


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Kirk seems meant to be but reasons why it won't happen

1.Buss almost let Odom walk due to money, he is not gonna take on Kirk with the cap going down and more luxary tax and even if it wasn't he doesn't even wanna sign one more player and we have a hole on our bench so basically he won't spend the moey imo.

2.We have nothing to offer

3.Kirk did a great job last year in the playoffs and has proved he can guard sg's and sf's.

4.They didn't try to keep Gorden so it seems obvious to me there set with Rose and Kirk.

5.Rose is a big time scorer so if you play him off the ball sometimes with Kirk you have that option and let Rose go crazy scoring.

6.If the Bulls ever want to win a championship there not giving us Kirk. People are still mad at Gasol and if we had Kirk we would win 80 games literally.

7.Other teams would out bid us just so we don't get him.

8.The Bulls are a team on the rise and with Gorden gone now they will need him and won't just be looking to cut salary they would want a real player not Farmar and Morrison and the popo platter we can give.

9.Ever since Gorden left there hasn't been any rumors about Kirk being on the block and there is no reason to think he is or that they think 6'3 Kirk and 6'3 Rose can't play together. Since there both sg size almost they have the advantage and the big man will reach potential with 2 passers. They went with Ben Gorden a 6 footer defensive liability so why not a 6'3-4 guy who has proven he can score like a 2.

10.His defense will allow Rose to go up against the weaker of the 2 guard spots and him being a point as well takes alot of pressure off Rose and free's him up. I think they essentially choose Kirk over Ben by letting him walk which was the right choice.

11.They're not in financial trouble and even if they were Kirks deal is pretty fair. Nobody else has a big deal there besides Deng.

Do you really see the Bulls giving the nod for what our offer would be which at best we can offer, Brown-Farmar-draft picks and Ammo's expiring contract.

DEEP3CL wrote:

Aki wrote:chris brown is the future

lakers wanted him at #17 in 2006, cavs took him at #16

Dude Shannon Brown was taken 25th by the Cavs in the 1st in 2006. Jordan was taken 26th in the same round. Lakers or Cavs didn't have picks that high in 2006.

my bad, shoulda looked that up XD

Mitch better think that by not signing anybody else when there was options.