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Post#1 » by LAKERS_1981 » Mon Dec 7, 2009 4:24 pm

I have to say he has a good baskerball IQ. But he is geting to mutch money.
In 2007 he was playing well 11 pts, 5 reb, 4 ast 33 min per game.
Then he gets money and well....

2009 5 pts , 2 reb, 2 ast 18 min
And this season 9 games 3 pts, 1 reb, 1 ast 11 min and he is geting 4,8 m $ for this a year.
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Post#2 » by 96 Til Infiniti » Mon Dec 7, 2009 6:26 pm

Thought this was going to be an injury update.

But yes. He is overpaid. As is most of our bench.
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Post#3 » by LAKESHOW » Mon Dec 7, 2009 6:41 pm

maybe he shouldve won that latest poll that said kobe has a high basketball IQ.
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Post#4 » by Mamba Venom » Mon Dec 7, 2009 9:05 pm

Walton + AMMO + Sasha = same pay as Wade.

I would rather have a combo gaurd to run the triangle and have Fish off the bench. This squad can be 11 deep and win it all

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Post#5 » by That Nicka » Mon Dec 7, 2009 9:09 pm

I wish we could get the Luke back from the 06 playoffs and 07 regular season.. solid solid player back then
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Post#6 » by daddyfivestar » Mon Dec 7, 2009 9:14 pm

News flash. Luke is smart but overpaid. Film at 11.
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Post#7 » by dockingsched » Mon Dec 7, 2009 9:20 pm

luke was paid when his role was much bigger on the team. he was the starting sf and basically the 3rd best player on the team behind kobe and lamar. his play has certainly dipped, but he's not going to be worth his salary even if his play didn't dip at all.
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Post#8 » by El Hardee » Mon Dec 7, 2009 9:22 pm

LAKERS_1981 wrote:I have to say he has a good baskerball IQ. But he is geting to mutch money.
In 2007 he was playing well 11 pts, 5 reb, 4 ast 33 min per game.
Then he gets money and well....

2009 5 pts , 2 reb, 2 ast 18 min
And this season 9 games 3 pts, 1 reb, 1 ast 11 min and he is geting 4,8 m $ for this a year.
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Post#9 » by Slava » Mon Dec 7, 2009 9:24 pm

Back then he was the yeast. Now he's the virus.
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Post#10 » by Danny Darko » Mon Dec 7, 2009 10:56 pm

yeah, I say we dock his pay.
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Post#11 » by laduane1 » Tue Dec 8, 2009 2:08 am

Luke is smart. Say your hurt and sit out games and still get paided.
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Post#12 » by Jajwanda » Tue Dec 8, 2009 2:10 am

Paided? Paided? I'm most definitely not a grammar whore nor a spelling freak, but that's just ridiculous.
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Post#13 » by Dr Aki » Tue Dec 8, 2009 4:44 am

its too bad luke doesnt have the athleticism/height/skills to compliment his BBIQ, dude recognises mismatches and makes the proper play most of the time

if he did, hed be as good as gasol or a consistent lamar

at the moment, hes only as good as a poor man's boris diaw

it doesnt really matter in the end, when healthy luke gives the lakers (yet) another playmaker in addition to gasol/lamar/artest/kobe and another post-up player in addition to kobe/gasol/bynum/odom/artest

sure, hes a little overpaid, but that was mitch, who was limited to old revenue projections. just accept luke for the poor man's lamar he is
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Post#14 » by Jajwanda » Tue Dec 8, 2009 4:54 am

Luke healthy can defend at an acceptable level against some players. He's still more useful off the bench than Vujajic.

The Lakers desperately need a SG/SF.
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Post#15 » by tracey_nice » Tue Dec 8, 2009 5:17 am

luke sucks
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Post#16 » by xkirax » Tue Dec 8, 2009 5:49 am

while i might want luke traded just as much as the next guy i still respect the guy unlike some other overpaid scrub (fisher). Luke saw there was someone better then him on the team and asked phil to start him (Ariza). It speaks highly of a guy who puts the team first befor his own gloary for the good of the team un like some other scrub on the lakers (Fisher).
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Post#17 » by tracey_nice » Tue Dec 8, 2009 6:22 am

xkirax wrote:while i might want luke traded just as much as the next guy i still respect the guy unlike some other overpaid scrub (fisher). Luke saw there was someone better then him on the team and asked phil to start him (Ariza). It speaks highly of a guy who puts the team first befor his own gloary for the good of the team un like some other scrub on the lakers (Fisher).

At least that scrub contributes to the team
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Post#18 » by ALL HAIL » Wed Dec 9, 2009 1:13 am

Luke is worth the minimum.

At that price I would respect his role.

I've been saying it for 4 years now ... he fills the same role that Jud Buechler filled for the Bulls.

Buechler wasn't yeast and Walton has NEVER been yeast either.

Shame on all of you who were bedazzled by his fools gold performances a few years ago. It's a shame and a testiment to the emotional levels of some of the dudes on this board that he was FOOLISHLY dubbed our second best/important player ... he has never ever been that.

He is Jud Buechler.

Some of you all have no right to criticize his salary because. judging by the many emotional responses I recieved when I suggested letting him walk, you all would have signed him to the same exact same deal.

He ain't yeast. He's never been important. He's always been a liability as far as I'm concerned.

Fisher is Horry and Shaw -- clutch, intangible vets.

Luke Walton is Jud Buechler.

Note: I actually like the dude. I just hate that so many people have always overvalued how important he is to our success. The less he plays the better/more dominant this team will be.
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Post#19 » by dockingsched » Wed Dec 9, 2009 2:21 am

of course luke isn't important to the lakers' success now. back then though, he was definitely a key cog to the lakers playoff hopes. to say he was never the yeast is just wrong. i mean, it wasn't fans who came up with that term, it was phil jackson.
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Post#20 » by ALL HAIL » Wed Dec 9, 2009 2:45 am

Phil ain't the gospel.

If it were Phil's will, Walton would've started over Ariza.

We all know he has a very stubborn will ... Fisher will probably NEVER come off the bench as a Laker because of Phil's will.

Do I want Phil as my coach, YES, but is he loyal to a fault, HELL YES.

I'm using my own head when I say that Luke was only MILDLY important because we had absolutely nobody else to play ... NOONE. Even when he was playing okay, he was still a weakness.

Only a few people could see that back then. Everyone else, including Mitch, Phil, and most everyone else on this board thought he was SOOOO much more than he was.

To me, he is EXACTLY the same player he has always been ... a 10 minute role player in the mold of Jud Buechler ... not the 35 million dollar man that MOST everyone had him pegged as.

A realGM must have a little FORESIGHT, even when a dude is playing well.

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