The Official: 2010 Offseason Thread

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Post#81 » by SKIBA7 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:23 am

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sh00n wrote:I can't believe that's all Chicago got back. Chicago also gives up Aliu, and get back Reasoner and Morin with Jersey's pick and another late one. What an awful deal for Buff; if all Chicago was looking for were late picks and meh prospects, Montreal should've been on this like crazy.

And I thought the Halak deal was bad. . .


Whaddaya mean?

Byfuglien is worth a high 2nd with his play in the regular season at best. We got a 1st, and a 2nd for him, and a legitimate Top 6 forward prospect in Morin. All the while freeing up space. Byfuglien's true value is to a playoff contender, and I think its safe to say Atlanta is not quite there yet.

And Buff is going to be, if he isn't already, the best power forward in the NHL. The only benefit is they lose Sopel's contract, which could've been shedded just as easily with Versteeg as it would've Buff.

Safe to say the Hawks aren't repeating.



Admit it... the only thing you know about Byfuglien is what you learned in this postseason, right? It's obvious due to the fact that you clearly don't know anything abouit Dustin Byfuglien.

Saying that he's going to be the best power forward in the league this season is pretty comical.

The truth is that Byfuglien was pretty bad in the regular season (except for those few weeks before the Olympic break when he was trying to make the US team) and had a good stretch in the postseason. He can be pretty good when he actually tries... which is not often.

I'm a Hawks fan and I a thrilled with this trade, considering the circumstances. I had read a few days ago that Bowman was looking for a first rounder and I thought he was crazy (and so did everybody else on every board I read), and he basically got it.

Morin > Aliu
Eager = Reasoner

And then we ton Sopel into a second rounder and Byfuglien into a 1st. Great haul.

I like Byfuglien and I'll always appreciate he did in the playoffs this year, but I'm glad we sold high on him. We're going to lose a bunch of guys, and Byfuglien probably has the biggest disparity between percieved value and actual value of anybody on thet team.

We need to focus on keeping the top 4 forwards and top 4 d-men. Sharp and Hjalmarsson are the only one of those 8 that are in danger, so guys like Byfuglien have to be expendable. We need to keep Sharp and especially Hjalmarsson. Those guys are crucial to our success next season. Byfuglien really isn't.

So to sum it up, we don't have the luxury of paying good money t a guy who is probably going to suck ass in the regular season.
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Re: The Official: 2010 Offseason Thread 

Post#82 » by ChronicKerr » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:41 pm

Colin Fraser just got traded to Edmonton for a draft pick
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Re: The Official: 2010 Offseason Thread 

Post#83 » by sh00n » Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:33 pm

SKIBA7 wrote:Admit it... the only thing you know about Byfuglien is what you learned in this postseason, right? It's obvious due to the fact that you clearly don't know anything abouit Dustin Byfuglien.

Saying that he's going to be the best power forward in the league this season is pretty comical.

Actually, I've been following the Hawks for a few years now even though I'm a Habs fan, but you can keep stating that I know nothing about him, which is pretty comical, let alone ignorant.

You guys can have fun with Marty Reasoner, a mediocre prospect and two late picks while you're missing his presence come post season time.
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Re: The Official: 2010 Offseason Thread 

Post#84 » by WEFFPIM » Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:49 pm

ChronicKerr wrote:Colin Fraser just got traded to Edmonton for a draft pick


That was not a name being thrown around as trade bait...interesting.
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Re: The Official: 2010 Offseason Thread 

Post#85 » by WEFFPIM » Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:50 pm

sh00n wrote:
SKIBA7 wrote:Admit it... the only thing you know about Byfuglien is what you learned in this postseason, right? It's obvious due to the fact that you clearly don't know anything abouit Dustin Byfuglien.

Saying that he's going to be the best power forward in the league this season is pretty comical.

Actually, I've been following the Hawks for a few years now even though I'm a Habs fan, but you can keep stating that I know nothing about him, which is pretty comical, let alone ignorant.

You guys can have fun with Marty Reasoner, a mediocre prospect and two late picks while you're missing his presence come post season time.


What part of it having to be done don't you understand?
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Re: The Official: 2010 Offseason Thread 

Post#86 » by Nolan » Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:17 pm

ChronicKerr wrote:Colin Fraser just got traded to Edmonton for a draft pick


Hopefully we can resgin him. He'd be a solid additiion to our team.
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Re: The Official: 2010 Offseason Thread 

Post#87 » by Nolan » Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:19 pm

Patrick Marleau and Joe Pavelski are staying in San Jose.
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Re: The Official: 2010 Offseason Thread 

Post#88 » by ChronicKerr » Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:44 pm

sh00n wrote:
SKIBA7 wrote:Admit it... the only thing you know about Byfuglien is what you learned in this postseason, right? It's obvious due to the fact that you clearly don't know anything abouit Dustin Byfuglien.

Saying that he's going to be the best power forward in the league this season is pretty comical.

Actually, I've been following the Hawks for a few years now even though I'm a Habs fan, but you can keep stating that I know nothing about him, which is pretty comical, let alone ignorant.

You guys can have fun with Marty Reasoner, a mediocre prospect and two late picks while you're missing his presence come post season time.


:lol: Since when is a 1st and 2nd rounder considered to be late picks? Bygulien himself was the 245th pick overall back in 2003. Are you not familiar with the cap situation in Chicago? You've been pining for wanting Hammer and Sharp for a few weeks now and these are the two guys Chicago decided to keep. You sound bitter because of it.
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Re: The Official: 2010 Offseason Thread 

Post#89 » by sh00n » Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:00 pm

ChronicKerr wrote: :lol: Since when is a 1st and 2nd rounder considered to be late picks? Bygulien himself was the 245th pick overall back in 2003. Are you not familiar with the cap situation in Chicago? You've been pining for wanting Hammer and Sharp for a few weeks now and these are the two guys Chicago decided to keep. You sound bitter because of it.

Oh yeah. I'm so bitter.
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Re: The Official: 2010 Offseason Thread 

Post#90 » by Snayr » Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:35 pm

I'm bitter! I want Buff and Sharp dang it!
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Re: The Official: 2010 Offseason Thread 

Post#91 » by SKIBA7 » Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:00 pm

sh00n wrote:
SKIBA7 wrote:Admit it... the only thing you know about Byfuglien is what you learned in this postseason, right? It's obvious due to the fact that you clearly don't know anything abouit Dustin Byfuglien.

Saying that he's going to be the best power forward in the league this season is pretty comical.

Actually, I've been following the Hawks for a few years now even though I'm a Habs fan, but you can keep stating that I know nothing about him, which is pretty comical, let alone ignorant.


It's not comical, it's obvious. Nobody who actuallky had an understanding of Dustin Byfuglien wouldn't be saying the nonsense you're spewing.

You saw him score some big goals in the playoffs so it got stuck in your mind he's some badass based on like a 6 week sample size. It's obvious.
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Re: The Official: 2010 Offseason Thread 

Post#92 » by Snayr » Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:53 pm

Chill out, both of you. Enough of this back and forth nonsense. Stay on topic without going after eachothers throats plz and ty. EVERYONE is entitled to their own opinion, regardless of whether they agree with you or not. Understood?
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Re: The Official: 2010 Offseason Thread 

Post#93 » by sh00n » Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:41 pm

:lol:...

Anyways, draft tonight. Let's see if Sharp is moved for a late first rounder and a scrap prospect.
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Re: The Official: 2010 Offseason Thread 

Post#94 » by Snayr » Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:54 pm

So, Hall is off to Edmonton and Seguin off to Boston. Pretty much what I expected.
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Re: The Official: 2010 Offseason Thread 

Post#95 » by sh00n » Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:07 am

Snayr wrote:So, Hall is off to Edmonton and Seguin off to Boston. Pretty much what I expected.

Stevie Y's taking a huge risk, though. I like it, personally.
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Re: The Official: 2010 Offseason Thread 

Post#96 » by bryant08 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 1:14 am

Wow at Fowler and Gormley dropping.
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Re: The Official: 2010 Offseason Thread 

Post#97 » by sh00n » Sat Jun 26, 2010 1:38 am

bryant08 wrote:Wow at Fowler and Gormley dropping.

Anaheim and Phoenix of all teams, too. Some luck.
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Post#98 » by sh00n » Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:15 am

I love the Tinordi pick. Would've loved Sheahan or McFarlane, but Tinordi is a giant.
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Post#99 » by Snayr » Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:20 am

Tinordi makes me happy! Kid's my height! haha. He's going to be an important shut down guy for us in years to come, looking forward to watching his development!
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Re: The Official: 2010 Offseason Thread 

Post#100 » by sh00n » Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:16 am

Hamhuis' rights traded to Pens. Hot damn.

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