Which Deal would u rather of had?

Griff83 · Post #1 » by **Griff83** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:45 am

This is a totally hypothetical topic, but Im going show everything the Leafs gave up for Andrew Raycroft and Vesa Toskala and then show you what the Panthers got back when they traded Luongo to Vancouver.

Toronto has give up for Toskala/Raycroft combo

-Tukka Rask
-#13 pick (Cherapanov, Espo both fell)
-2nd round pick #44 overall
-4th Round pick in 2009

What Florida got for Luongo

-Todd Bertuzzi
-Bryan Allen
-Alex Auld

Toronto has given up a **** of picks/prospects for 2 goalies and prolly could have mustered together quite a enticing package of assets to offer Florida when they were shopping Luongo.

If you were the Panthers GM, which set of picks/players/prospects would you rather have Rask, #13 pick, 2nd rounder, 4th rounder or Bertuzzi, Allen and Auld?

Post #2 » by **Nolan** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:49 am

To be honest I take the package from Vancover at the time. Because at the time Bertuzzi was still considered an allstar calibur player and Allen and Auld are both good young players with some potential. Where as the package from TO just puts a rebuilding team farther behind, plus those whould all be late picks.

risktaker91 · Post #3 » by **risktaker91** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:31 pm

Are you saying the Leafs could have gotten Luongo?

Post #4 » by **Mr Swagtastic** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:13 pm

There was more involved in the deal. Roberto said that he didn't want to resign with the Panthers unless they wanted to better the team with some star/superstar players. The guy was facing 50+ shots a at times. He kept the Panthers from having one of the worst records in league history.

Bertuzzi was also a 40 goal and 50 to 60 assist player. He was considered to be a top 20 talent when he was in his prime. There is no way Toronto would have gotten Luongo for Rask and a draft pick you would have had to start with like Tucker or Sundin and then Poogie or Rask.

Griff83 · Post #5 » by **Griff83** » Sat Sep 1, 2007 4:41 pm

xbl_sucks wrote:There was more involved in the deal. Roberto said that he didn't want to resign with the Panthers unless they wanted to better the team with some star/superstar players. The guy was facing 50+ shots a at times. He kept the Panthers from having one of the worst records in league history.

Bertuzzi was also a 40 goal and 50 to 60 assist player. He was considered to be a top 20 talent when he was in his prime. There is no way Toronto would have gotten Luongo for Rask and a draft pick you would have had to start with like Tucker or Sundin and then Poogie or Rask.

Too bad at the time of the trade, he was no longer considered a top 20 talent and was coming off of a 71pt season and 60pt season the year before that. At the time of this trade Bertuzzi was no longer looking like the player he once did and looked to have lost a gear. Sundin and Rask? Id make that trade (even though alot of leaf fans would crie at the departure of there beloved captain, but it would bring Elite goaltending to the team for the next 6-7 years) but they could have got Luongo for less by just looking at what Vancouver got him for. Again Bertuzzi was no longer the all star talent at the time of the trade and had alot of baggage with him going to Florida.

Post #6 » by **Mr Swagtastic** » Sun Sep 2, 2007 1:59 am

BlueJay_ wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Too bad at the time of the trade, he was no longer considered a top 20 talent and was coming off of a 71pt season and 60pt season the year before that. At the time of this trade Bertuzzi was no longer looking like the player he once did and looked to have lost a gear. Sundin and Rask? Id make that trade (even though alot of leaf fans would crie at the departure of there beloved captain, but it would bring Elite goaltending to the team for the next 6-7 years) but they could have got Luongo for less by just looking at what Vancouver got him for. Again Bertuzzi was no longer the all star talent at the time of the trade and had alot of baggage with him going to Florida.

wow no wonder Toronto Maple Leaf fans are the most hated in the world :lol:

! Loungo would cost alot more then that.

Griff83 · Post #7 » by **Griff83** » Sun Sep 2, 2007 2:22 am

xbl_sucks wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

wow no wonder Toronto Maple Leaf fans are the most hated in the world ! Loungo would cost alot more then that.

Your the one in the previous post who suggested thats what it would cost to get Luongo, I wasnt the one who came up with it.

But your the mod who thinks Florida is going to contend for the worst record in the league and Gomez's deparure will no longer allow Parise to get all his easy points :rofl:

Funny how in the true/flase thread you never responded to my post quoting you on your hilarious post about Florida being one of the worst teams in the league.

JurassicJake · Post #8 » by **JurassicJake** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:22 am

I would take the first option.

BTW, Florida is the worst team in the league. The thing that makes them worse than teams like LA, is their lack of prospects. Other than Bowmeester, Van Ryn, Jokinen, Horton they really don't have much; It could be argued that those guys aren't prospects anymore either.

Griff83 · Post #9 » by **Griff83** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:46 pm

JurassicJake wrote:I would take the first option.

BTW, Florida is the worst team in the league. The thing that makes them worse than teams like LA, is their lack of prospects. Other than Bowmeester, Van Ryn, Jokinen, Horton they really don't have much; It could be argued that those guys aren't prospects anymore either.

Florida wasnt the worst team in the league last year and certainly wont be the worst team in the league this year. They have 2 good prospects in there system in Frolik and McCardle. Its hilarious how everyone on here think the Panthers are going to be so horrible this year.

Post #10 » by **Crowned** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:57 pm

BlueJay_ wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Florida wasnt the worst team in the league last year and certainly wont be the worst team in the league this year. They have 2 good prospects in there system in Frolik and McCardle. Its hilarious how everyone on here think the Panthers are going to be so horrible this year.

Add Ellerby, Plante, Repik, Stewart (to an extent) and Matthias in there as well.

They may not be 'loaded' in the prospects department at the moment, but that's because many of their former prospects are now with the big club. They're still rather deep in the 'youth' department.