Ducks selling the farm?

Post #1 » by **Mr Swagtastic** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 6:16 pm

Why are all the rumors about the Ducks? They are rumored to be getting Blake without giving up Ryan Getzlaf, Perry, Chris Pronger, Scott Niedermayer and Mathieu Schneider and then what's worse is they are rumored to be getting Sundin for the same thing. How can they give up nothing for superstars?

They don't have cap room and I doubt LA would take Teemu for Blake or Toronto wouldn't either.

BringBackPopeye · Post #2 » by **BringBackPopeye** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 8:36 pm

they do have some capspace now, their problem before was that they were over next year's cap with the getzlaf deal so they had to trade a longer contract (macdonald) for a shorter one (weight).

I don't see why you would think they would possibly trade any big contributors for rentals, theres no way LA gets a guy like perry for blake and they wouldn't want schneider's contract. They still do have near 4 mill in cap space (according to nhlscap.com), and some assets like bobby ryan, edmonton's pick, and they could always trade a guy like beauchemain who would have a lot of value.

Post #3 » by **Mr Swagtastic** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 9:48 pm

BringBackPopeye wrote:they do have some capspace now, their problem before was that they were over next year's cap with the getzlaf deal so they had to trade a longer contract (macdonald) for a shorter one (weight).

I don't see why you would think they would possibly trade any big contributors for rentals, theres no way LA gets a guy like perry for blake and they wouldn't want schneider's contract. They still do have near 4 mill in cap space (according to nhlscap.com), and some assets like bobby ryan, edmonton's pick, and they could always trade a guy like beauchemain who would have a lot of value.

How do they have cap room when they resigned Scott and Teemu? I think they used it all. The point I was making is the rumor had them giving up **** for allstars they said that Toronto is ready to trade Sundin for Beaucheman and Ducks 1st this year. Why on earth would they take that when Detroit is giving up Fillipula, Kindl and a couple of picks.

Griff83 · Post #4 » by **Griff83** » Sat Feb 9, 2008 12:10 am

xbl_sucks wrote:Why are all the rumors about the Ducks? They are rumored to be getting Blake without giving up Ryan Getzlaf, Perry, Chris Pronger, Scott Niedermayer and Mathieu Schneider and then what's worse is they are rumored to be getting Sundin for the same thing. How can they give up nothing for superstars?

They don't have cap room and I doubt LA would take Teemu for Blake or Toronto wouldn't either.

Dude Rob Blake is no longer even close to a superstar.

Griff83 · Post #5 » by **Griff83** » Sat Feb 9, 2008 12:11 am

and the Ducks still have about 5 million dollars to play with.

Post #6 » by **Mr Swagtastic** » Sat Feb 9, 2008 7:16 pm

Griff83 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Dude Rob Blake is no longer even close to a superstar.

Still a pretty damn good player though that would help the Ducks PP or any PP.

Griff83 · Post #7 » by **Griff83** » Sat Feb 9, 2008 7:31 pm

xbl_sucks wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Still a pretty damn good player though that would help the Ducks PP or any PP.

They dont need him on there PP. They already have two capable blueliners who are better players then him taking up that role. Really Blake has been very mediocre the past few seasons and the only thing that is keeping people thinking he's still a very good defencemen are his point totals and that has alot to do with playing on a very skilled powerplay team. He's also been a giveaway waiting to happen in his own zone and no longer had the skating he once did.

also, do you have some sort of link showing that Detroit has said they would be willing to give up both Filpula and Kindl plus a pick for Sundin?

Post #8 » by **TNBT** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:53 am

Griff83 wrote:also, do you have some sort of link showing that Detroit has said they would be willing to give up both Filpula and Kindl plus a pick for Sundin?

I was wondering the same thing. I haven't heard anything about it, and it seems rediculous that we would trade EITHER of Filppula or Kindl for Blake or Sundin, let alone BOTH of them. Then to include pick(s) in the deal makes it even more insane.

Post #9 » by **Mr Swagtastic** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:30 pm

The Next Big Thing wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I was wondering the same thing. I haven't heard anything about it, and it seems rediculous that we would trade EITHER of Filppula or Kindl for Blake or Sundin, let alone BOTH of them. Then to include pick(s) in the deal makes it even more insane.

I can't pull up the link again, I remember the deal was in place keyword was. I will see if I can pull it once again

Here was one I pulled

To Toronto:
Jimmy Howard
Detroit 1st Rounder (2008)
Detroit 1st rounder (conditional 2009 if Sundin signs with another team)
Detroit 4th rounder (2008)
Nikalas Kronwall

To Detriot:
Mats Sundin
Kyle Wellwood
Toronto 6th rounder (whenever Deroit wants)

Thats terrible for Detroit I mean 3 picks for Sundin and Wellwood. Thats pretty bad. Howard is our number 1 goalie in 2 years why would we trade him for a quick fix?

http://www.nhl-trade-rumors.com/rumors.htm has to be the worst rumor site ever I mean some insider actually said that this is a great deal for Washington :roll:

Mats Sundin to Washinton
Oveckin, Semin, Backstrom, and Mike Green to Toronto

Post #10 » by **timd1218** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:51 pm

[quote="xbl_sucks"][/quote]

That's stupid trade for Detroit to do.

That Washington - Toronto deal, that was obviously sent in by a Toronto fan. Dumbest trade ever!!!

Post #11 » by **TNBT** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:08 am

They were both pretty damn dumb trades.

Mr. Perfect · Post #12 » by **Mr. Perfect** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:08 pm

xbl_sucks wrote:
The Next Big Thing wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I was wondering the same thing. I haven't heard anything about it, and it seems rediculous that we would trade EITHER of Filppula or Kindl for Blake or Sundin, let alone BOTH of them. Then to include pick(s) in the deal makes it even more insane.

I can't pull up the link again, I remember the deal was in place keyword was. I will see if I can pull it once again

Here was one I pulled

To Toronto:
Jimmy Howard
Detroit 1st Rounder (2008)
Detroit 1st rounder (conditional 2009 if Sundin signs with another team)
Detroit 4th rounder (2008)
Nikalas Kronwall

To Detriot:
Mats Sundin
Kyle Wellwood
Toronto 6th rounder (whenever Deroit wants)

Thats terrible for Detroit I mean 3 picks for Sundin and Wellwood. Thats pretty bad. Howard is our number 1 goalie in 2 years why would we trade him for a quick fix?

http://www.nhl-trade-rumors.com/rumors.htm has to be the worst rumor site ever I mean some insider actually said that this is a great deal for Washington

Mats Sundin to Washinton
Oveckin, Semin, Backstrom, and Mike Green to Toronto

Who had the audacity to even think of that trade let alone post it on a website... :noway: