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YEAR 3 of the Hardcore League

:: RULES ::

Draft Type: Offline starting with 12 hour clock
Draft Lottery Date: Any day between now and Saturday August 5, 2010
Draft Time: begins Thursday August 5th (12:00pm EST)
Draft System: (1,2..11,12,1,2...11,12..1,2)
Max Teams: 12
Scoring Type: Head-to-Head
Max Moves: No Maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Trade Reject Time: 2 day
Trade End Date: Yahoo default
Waiver Time: 2 days
Can't Cut List Provider: Yahoo
Trade Review: League votes (5 votes to veto)
Post Draft Players: Free agents
Roster Changes: Daily
Start Scoring on: Week 1
Roster Positions (21): 3xC, 2xLW, 2xRW, 1xW, 2xUtil, 4xD, Gx2, Bench x 5
No. of Keepers for Season 3: *could be changed - 10 players (any position) and 1 rookie player
Stat Categories:
skaters - G, A, +/-, PPP, SHP, GWG, PIM
goalies - W, L, SV%, GAA, Shutouts, saves (added 2010)
MIN Goalie Starts: 3

Lottery Information:
We will be using the website http://www.random.org/sform.html to generate the draft order. I will get someone who is not in the league to run it for us so there is no bias. Your lottery number will be your registration number.
Lottery results will be posted before Saturday August 1, 2010 at 12pm EST.

Offline Draft Rules:
Each manager will have 12 hours to make his/her selection.
If you do not make your pick within your 12 hour time limit, your pick is skipped and the draft will move along to the next manager, and the next and so on. When skipped, you can make your pick at any time when you check back in.

If you feel you will not be able to make your pick when your time is due to come up, please email a contingency list to HKL_Draft (at) hotmail.com, or another manager who you trust to make the selection for you.

Once you make a pick, it is final. There is no changing your pick. You are not to edit the post that you make your pick in.

You may trade draft picks at any time after the lottery. You may also include players in your offline trades prior to the start of the season without experiencing the pending period you will experience during the season.
Once the draft begins, there will be a player moratorium, wherein you cannot mention ANY players’ name that have not yet been selected.

Add/Drop/Waivers:
There will be a 2 day waiver period for dropped players.

Injured Reserve:
Each team will be able to assign 2 players to the injured reserve list at a time. Players eligible will have a red IR beside their position.

Keeper Info:
At the end of each season, each manager will choose 10 players to 'keep' from any position. 1 additional player of your choosing kept can be a rookie.

::Rookie Info::
For a player to qualify as a rookie he must fit the following criteria; if a skater, that player must have played in less than 82 regular season NHL games, if a goalie, that player must have played in less than 70 regular season NHL games.

The rest will go into the free agent pool along with all rookies for the next season

At the conclusion of the season: The manager who wins the season (playoffs) gets to keep an additional player (any position) but loses their 2nd round pick.

The lottery for next year will be much like an NBA lottery, where the last place team will get the most “balls” and greater odds of getting the first pick, but no guarantee so as to prohibit tanking on purpose. There will be 4 non-playoff teams. The 2 teams with the worst records will have equal/the best odds (8 balls for example), the next 2 teams will have half of the worst 4 (4 balls for example).

There will be 14 rounds (approximately) to fill out your roster again.
I will keep track of each manager’s keeper list and will post them as we approach the draft for the next season.

All drafts will be offline.

ACTIVE MANAGERS ONLY:
The goal of keeper league’s is to make this multiple seasons, so please, only join if you want to be a serious part of this for years to come!
When posting that you want to be a manager in this league, please provide your e-mail address so that when the league is created on Yahoo I can send you an invitation – also for trade purposes.

Inactive managers will be replaced at season’s end with no hesitation.

2010 Champion - Mother Puckers

2nd ThomasSullivanMagnum
3rd Colonel Angus
4th Team IR
5th Ice Princes
6th Adonis DNA + Winning
7th Willard Fillmore
8th Team Awesome 2
9th wreckedangle
10th AlbinosOnSkates
11th Madmartigan
12th CREP


Final Rosters from 2010 Season

Albinos (Adam)
C - Jeff Carter
C - Henrik Sedin
C - Nazem Kadri
LW - Ville Leino
LW - Nikolai Kulemin
RW - Patric Hornqvist
RW - Chris Stewart
W - Clarke MacArthur
D - Lubomir Visnovsky
D - Victor Hedmen
D - Dennis Wideman
D - Niklas Kronwall
UTL - Jamie Benn
UTL - James Van Riemsdyk
BN - Edward "Teddy" Purcell
BN - Nathan Gerbe
BN - Tim Connolly
BN - Ryan Callahan
BN - Andy Macdonald
G - Miikka Kiprusoff
G - Pekka Rinne

Thomas Sullivan Magnum (Mike)
C - Logan Couture
C - Patrick Marleau
C - David Backes
LW - Pavel Datsyuk
LW - Tyler Ennis
RW - Patrick Sharp
RW - Patrick Kane
W - Kyle Okposo
D - Jack Johnson
D - Kevin Shattenkirk
D - Alex Pietrangelo
D - Erik Karlsson
UTL - Mikhail Grabovski
UTL - Ales Hemsky
BN - Alex Tanguay
BN - Scott Hartnell
BN - Teemu Selanne
BN - Brian Gionta
BN - Stephen Weiss
G - Corey Crawford
G - Henrik Lundqvist

BronxBomber (Dan)
C - Jonathan Toews
C - Paul Stastny
C - Ryan Kesler
LW - Zach Parise
LW - Henrik Zetterberg
RW - Marian Gaborik
RW - Joe Pavelski
W - Michael Cammalleri
D - Chris Pronger
D - Ryan Suter
D - Alex Goligoski
D - Brent Seabrook
UTL - Brayden Schenn
UTL - Derek Roy
BN - Jakub Voracek
BN - Rene Bourque
BN - Vinny Prospal
BN - Joffery Lupul
BN - Kari Lehtonen
G - Jimmy Howard
G - Roberto Luongo

Madmartigan (qmclafferty82)
C - Anze Kopitar
C - Matt Duchene
C - Joe Thornton
LW - Phil Kessel
LW - Thomas Vanek
RW - Martin Havlat
RW - Peter Mueller
W - Bobby Ryan
D - Brent Burns
D - Drew Doughty
D - Cam Fowler
D - Ryan Ellis
UTL - David Krejci
UTL - Michael Grabner
BN - Ryan Hopkins
BN - Brad Marchand
BN - Brian Little
BN - Blake Wheeler
G - Antti Niemi
G - Tuukka Rask
BN - James Reimer

Colonel Angus (Gary)
C - Nicklas Backstrom
C - Ryan Getzlaf
C - Brad Richards
LW - Dany Heatley
LW - Magnus Paajarvi
RW - Shane Doan
RW - Jason Pominville
W - Matt Moulson
D - Erik Johnson
D - Keith Yandle
D - Dustin Byfuglien
D - Kevin Bieksa
UTL - John Tavares
UTL - Jason Spezza
BN - RJ Umberger
BN - Sean Avery
BN - Martin Erat
G - Martin Brodeur
G - Jeroslav Halak
G - Carey Price
G - Marc-Andre Fleury


Team IR (Nick)
C - Sidney Crosby
C - Brandon Dubinsky
C - Patrice Bergeron
LW - Brenden Morrow
LW - James Neal
RW - Johan Franzen
RW - Corey Perry
W - Alexander Semin
D - Zdeno Chara
D - Brian Campbell
D - Tobias Enstrom
D - Tyler Myers
UTL - Jordan Staal
UTL - Brooks Laich
BN - James Wisniewski
BN - Patrik Berglund
BN - Ryan Smyth
BN - Pierre-Marc Bouchard
BN - Dwayne Roloson
G - Jonas Hiller
G - Ilya Bryzgalov

Ice Princes (Errin)
C - Mike Ribeiro
C - Eric Staal
C - Antoine Vermette
LW - Ryane Clowe
LW - Martin St. Louis
RW - Daniel Alfredsson
RW - Marian Hossa
W - Ryan Whitney
D - Mike Green
D - Dan Boyle
D - Tomas Kaberle
D - John-Micheal Liles
UTL - Ray Whitney
UTL - Mike Knuble
BN - Stefan Elliott
BN - David Rundblad
BN - Andrei Kostitsyn
G - Tomas Vokoun
G - Cam Ward
BN - Steve Mason
BN - Craig Anderson

Willard Filmore (Pat)
C - Tomas Plekanec
C - Danny Briere
C - Mikko Koivu
LW - Daniel Sedin
LW - Alexandre Burrows
RW - Nathan Horton
RW - Dustin Brown
W - Jarome Iginla
D - Christian Ehrhoff
D - P.K. Subban
D - Duncan Keith
D - Andrei Markov
UTL - Patrik Elias
UTL - Andrew Ladd
BN - Derek Stepan
BN - Drew Stafford
BN - Jonathan Huberdeau
BN - Milan Hejduk
BN - Evgeni Nabokov
G - Ryan Miller
G - Ondrej Pavelec

Wreckedangle (Byron)
C - Jeff Skinner
C - Travis Zajac
C - TJ Oshie
LW - Rick Nash
LW - Alex Ovechkin
RW - Steve Downie
RW - Claude Giroux
W - Simon Gagne
D - Shea Weber
D - Mark Streit
D - Dion Phaneuf
D - Alexander Edler
UTL - Tyler Seguin
UTL - Jaromir Jagr
BN - Bobby Butler
BN - Travis Hamonic
BN - Tomas Fleischmann
BN - Mikael (Bob) Backlund
G - Tim Thomas
G - Cory Schneider
G - Semyon Varlamov

Team Awesome 2 (Jeff)
C - Vincent Lecavalier
C - Steven Stamkos
C - Evgeni Malkin
LW - Ilya Kovalchuk
LW - Milan Lucic
RW - Loui Eriksson
RW - Justin Williams
W - Gabriel Landeskog
D - Kris Letang
D - Nicklas Lidstrom
D - John Carlson
D - Mark Giordano
UTL - Jordan Eberle
UTL - Mike Richards
BN - Taylor Hall
BN - Devin Setoguchi
BN - Zenon Kenopka
BN - Marek Zidlicky
BN - Jonathan Bernier
G - Niklas Backstrom
G - Jonathan Quick

wreckedangle (gets numbers 71-85)
AlbinosOnSkates (gets numbers 36-70)
Madmartigan (gets numbers 1-35)

Random Number Generation Sequence
28 80 7 61 6 76 2 85 19 63 27 52 21 25 73
Random numbers generated Aug 16 2011 at 12:17:30 by http://www.psychicscience.org

Draft Order:

Round1
Madmartigan - Joe Thornton
Wreckedangle - Tim Thomas
AlbinoOnSkates - Jamie Benn
TeamAwesome 2 - Ilya Kovalchuk
WillardFilmore - Jarome Iginla
Bronx - Ryan Kesler
Ice Princes - Daniel Alfredsson
Team IR - Zdeno Chara
Colonel Angus - foreign stop sign
ThomasSullivanMagnum - David Backes

Round 2
Madmartigan - Martin Havlat
Wreckedangle - Travis Zajac
AlbinoOnSkates - James Van Riemsdyk
TeamAwesome 2 - Nicklas Lidstrom
WillardFilmore - Tomas Plekanec
Bronx - Michael Cammalleri
Ice Princes - Craig Anderson
TeamAwesome 2 - Evander Kane
Colonel Angus - Jason Spezza
ThomasSullivanMagnum - Kyle Okposo

Round 3
Madmartigan - David Krejci
Wreckedangle - Jaromir Jagr
AlbinoOnSkates - Edward "Teddy" Purcell
TeamAwesome 2 - Justin Williams
TS Magnum - Scott Hartnell
Bronx - Derek Roy
TS Magnum - Mikhail Grabovski
TeamIR - Brenden Morrow
Colonel Angus - Martin Brodeur
ThomasSullivanMagnum - Ales Hemsky

Round 4
TS Magnum - Alex Tangauy
Wreckedangle - Dion Phaneuf
AlbinoOnSkates - Nathan Gerbe
Type1Diabeetus - Duncan Keith
Type1Diabeetus - Patrik Elias
Bronx - Alex Goligoski
Ice Princes - Ryan Whitney
Team IR - Tyler Myers
Colonel Angus - Shane Doan
ThomasSullivanMagnum - Erik Karlsson

Round 5
Madmartigan - Cam Fowler
Wreckedangle - TJ Oshie
AlbinoOnSkates - Tim Connolly
TeamAwesome 2 - John Carlson
WillardFilmore - Andrew Ladd
Bronx - Jakub Voracek
Ice Princes - Tomas Kaberle
Team IR - James Neal
Colonel Angus - Jason Pominville
ThomasSullivanMagnum - Teemu Selanne

Round 6
Madmartigan - Peter Mueller
Wreckedangle - Alexander Edler
AlbinoOnSkates - Ryan Callahan
TeamAwesome 2 - Gabriel Landeskog
WillardFilmore - Drew Stafford
Bronx - Kari Lehtonen
Ice Princes - John-Michael Liles
Team IR - Dwayne Roloson
Colonel Angus - Matt Moulson
ThomasSullivanMagnum - Brian Gionta

Round 7
Madmartigan - Ryan Hopkins
Wreckedangle - Bobby Butler
AlbinoOnSkates - Victor Hedmen
TeamAwesome 2 - Devin Setoguchi
WillardFilmore - Jonathan Huberdeau
Bronx - Brent Seabrook
Ice Princes - Antoine Vermette
Team IR - Jordan Staal
Colonel Angus - RJ Umberger
ThomasSullivanMagnum - Stephen Weiss

Round 8
Madmartigan - Brad Marchand
Wreckedangle - Travis Hamonic
AlbinoOnSkates - Dennis Wideman
TeamAwesome 2 - Mark Giordano
WillardFilmore - Evgeni Nabokov
Bronx - Rene Bourque
Ice Princes - Ray Whitney
Team IR - Brooks Laich
Colonel Angus - Sean Avery

Round 9
Madmartigan - Brian Little
Wreckedangle - Tomas Fleischmann
AlbinoOnSkates - Niklas Kronwall
TeamAwesome 2 - Zenon Kenopka
WillardFilmore - Andrei Markov
Bronx - Vinny Prospal
Ice Princes - Mike Knuble
Team IR - James Wisniewski
Colonel Angus - Kevin Bieksa

Round 10
Madmartigan - Blake Wheeler
Wreckedangle - Mikael Backlund
AlbinoOnSkates - Andy Macdonald
TeamAwesome 2 - Marek Zidlicky
WillardFilmore - Milan Hejduk
Bronx - Joffery Lupul
Ice Princes - David Rundblad
Team IR - Patrik Berglund
Colonel Angus - Martin Erat

FINAL ROUND
Madmartigan - Ryan Ellis
TeamAwesome 2 - Jonathan Bernier
Ice Princes - Andrei Kostitsyn
Team IR - Ryan Smyth
Madmartigan - Brad Boyes
Team IR -Peirre-Marc Bouchard

Albinos - Keepers

C - Jeff Carter
BN - Henrik Sedin
BN - Chris Stewart

D - Lubomir Visnovsky

G - Miikka Kiprusoff
IR - Pekka Rinne

Rook - Nazem Kadri

Madmartigan Keepers:

F: Anze Kopitar
F: Matt Duchene
F: Phil Kessel
D: Drew Doughty
D: Brent Burns
G: Tukka Rask
X: Bobby Ryan
F: Kyle Okposo
F: Thomas Vanek
G: Antti Niemi


R: Jame Reimer

A couple of things I would like to put to a vote for next year I guess...or this year whatever...

1. Since it is a "Keeper" League and not a "Let's rebuild your team every year because we barely keep anyone" League...can we maybe keep 10 or 11 guys next time instead of 7. Making it like 3 extra keepers of ANY position and 1 rookie of either a D-man/Goalie

2. Can the trade deadline be pushed to the final week before the playoffs?

3. I think there is a 3rd thing most of us talked about the other day but I can't think of it right now...I will edit this if I remember.

I would like second the everything mike said. Even the not remembering one.

Q#1 : too add to what mike is saying, i personally think the keepers shouldnt have any position restrictions. if i want to keep 4 D for example, then i should be able too.

i dont mind bumping it too 11 Keepers (half of the team). makes sense to me.

so 10 keepers, plus 1 rookie?

Q#2 : trade deadline can be moved. i dont see any problem there.

i think upgrading the yahoo to include trading draft picks (for the next year only) so at least we have a confirmation trail on who has what.

thats my two cents

bronxbombers07 wrote:Q#1 : too add to what mike is saying, i personally think the keepers shouldnt have any position restrictions. if i want to keep 4 D for example, then i should be able too.

i dont mind bumping it too 11 Keepers (half of the team). makes sense to me.

so 10 keepers, plus 1 rookie?

Q#2 : trade deadline can be moved. i dont see any problem there.

i think upgrading the yahoo to include trading draft picks (for the next year only) so at least we have a confirmation trail on who has what.

thats my two cents

I'm fine with that...10 keepers any position...1 rookie

when does this come into effect?

i would guess if there is an majority vote for this year, we can implement the 10 keepers +1
or we can start it next year like normal.

it will make the draft go pretty fast, since there will only be 11 rounds.

bronxbombers07 wrote:i would guess if there is an majority vote for this year, we can implement the 10 keepers +1
or we can start it next year like normal.

it will make the draft go pretty fast, since there will only be 11 rounds.

Okay cool...I vote to start it this year.

I agree with the 10 keepers + 1 rookie, and think the rookie game limit should be a full season (82 games, 70 games for a goalie).

I vote this year

Even though I don't know who I'd keep, probably won't even keep 10. Having the option is nice.

I'd like to keep 10 guys this year. Why wait? Baseball too!
Also, Magnus Paajarvi -- rookie or not? (played 80 games last year).

Rookie. I thought we had this conversation last year when Tavares was the topic?

type1DIABEETUS wrote:Rookie. I thought we had this conversation last year when Tavares was the topic?

You're right, we just didnt update the rules I guess.

so looks like we have a majority vote for the 10+1 keeper expansion for this year.
(mike, jeff, pat, Nick, Dan, Gyro)

so it is written, so it shall be done.

:: NEW RULE ::
As of August 18 2011, the HKL will expand its keeper amount to 10 any position players and 1 Rookie

fact

BronxBombers Keeper Repost:

(big 10)
Henrik Zetterberg
Jonathan Towes
Zach Parise
Paul Stastny
Marian Gaborik
Joe Pavalski
Chris Pronger
Ryan Sutter
Jimmy Howard
Roberto Loungo

(+1)
Brayden Shenn

Colonel Angus' keepers:

Nicklas Backstrom (C)
Ryan Getzlaf
Dany Heatley
Brad Richards
Jonathan Tavares
Keith Yandle
Dustin Byfuglien
Erik Johnson
Marc Andre Fleury
Carey Price

Magnus Paajarvi (R).

And this year, it's my turn to be "that guy". Since we now have more keepers and fewer rounds to do, any chance we could start the draft on Sept 5th, thus allowing people on long weekend camping trips the ability to have a few rounds without missing the first few rounds? If not, no big deal, but I can't be the only one with long weekend plans.