jbk1234 wrote:spree8 wrote:jbk1234 wrote:
He doesn't miss some time. He misses a lot of time once you factor in missed games and minutes played per game. Also, part of the reason he's such a good offensive rebounder is because (like TT) that's essentially entire role on offense. If he's on the floor, you're basically playing 4 on 5 on offense. That impacts who you can play with him. Any smart front office is going to factor in all of this before you get to the part where the Knicks are trading him while he's injured and questionable for the playoffs.
Minutes played per game = misses time? I don’t follow you there. I don’t think he misses a lot of time tho.. guess we can agree to disagree.
His entire role on offense isn’t just offensive rebounding tho… I’m not sure how much you’ve actually watched him, but sounds like you’re forgetting screen setting, being a big lob threat especially in the p&r, rim running, put backs, etc. We don’t play 4 on 5 as a result of what he brings… defenses have to keep a body on him because of his size and the aforementioned threats. I’m not sure you’re seeing that. It’s not like he’s left open and just gets easy rebounds, the guy is actually fighting multiple players for them every time but with his motor, strength, length, and height he wins the battles.
Smart FO’s factor that in too in addition to his defense and rim protection (which seems like you’re really undervaluing).
Just doesn’t sound like your take is anywhere near accurate.
The mpg part isn't that complicated. If you have to fill more than 20 mpg with another center (not to mention the 20-30 games missed) then you better have a good backup center, and those guys aren't cheap. So you have to add the cost of that player to his contract because you're not getting by with a taxMLE player eating all those minutes.
In terms of offense, yes you have to keep a body on him, but you only have to do that within 5 feet of the basket.
What? It is complicated because it doesn’t make any sense. He plays 29.3 mpg… that’s more than Myles, Capela, Wemby, Gafford, Poeltl, Horford, Zubac, Jonas, and same as Claxton and KP, and less than 1mpg than Chet and Allen. We also have the luxury of having iHart who’s very very good and deserves minutes.
And no, you don’t have to just keep a body on him within 5 ft of the basket. This sounds like you’re strictly looking at paper here, but the reality of it is if you run a high screen and roll from 25ft out and you don’t pick him up and he’s running to the rim he’s connecting on the lob which he often does, and if you let him set a screen for Brunson or someone else 25ft out and you don’t send help, well you’re giving up a wide open 3. Randle is an excellent passer too so if you don’t keep a body on Mitch who’s on the perimeter setting screens getting guys open, he tends to cut to the rim for an easy dump off and a dunk. He’s absolutely not someone you can just forget about. Mind you, he’s even shown ability to put the ball on the floor from 25ft out and take his man to the hole, yea it’s rare but the dude has skill. He’s just not a stiff.
