Tobias Harris / De'Anthony Melton Value Check

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Tobias Harris / De'Anthony Melton Value Check 

Post#1 » by zaz102 » Mon Feb 5, 2024 1:50 am

With the news of Embiid getting surgery, I wanted to see what would be the best offers for Harris and/or Melton.

My guess is the Sixers would be looking for a 1st and/or player(s) that have a contract that expires after next season or manageable contracts.
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Re: Tobias Harris / De'Anthony Melton Value Check 

Post#2 » by youngcrev » Mon Feb 5, 2024 2:29 am

The decision to have surgery now makes it more likely he'll be back this season, so I doubt they're going to go into sell mode.
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Re: Tobias Harris / De'Anthony Melton Value Check 

Post#3 » by Texas Chuck » Mon Feb 5, 2024 2:29 am

I don't expect Philly to punt on this season or free agency next year unless a deal makes sense.
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Re: Tobias Harris / De'Anthony Melton Value Check 

Post#4 » by daoneandonly » Mon Feb 5, 2024 2:30 am

Kyrie Irving, take him
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Re: Tobias Harris / De'Anthony Melton Value Check 

Post#5 » by the_process » Mon Feb 5, 2024 4:33 am

youngcrev wrote:The decision to have surgery now makes it more likely he'll be back this season, so I doubt they're going to go into sell mode.


Sell now, so you have more assets with which to buy in the summer.
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Re: Tobias Harris / De'Anthony Melton Value Check 

Post#6 » by Devilanche » Mon Feb 5, 2024 4:41 am

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youngcrev wrote:The decision to have surgery now makes it more likely he'll be back this season, so I doubt they're going to go into sell mode.


Sell now, so you have more assets with which to buy in the summer.

All depends what is the asset gain.

With Tobias being expiring might not be a good enough prize to move him.
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Re: Tobias Harris / De'Anthony Melton Value Check 

Post#7 » by hugepatsfan » Mon Feb 5, 2024 3:41 pm

Would love Melton on the Celtics. Seems impractical, but just to throw my hat in the ring, Pritchard/Svi/Stevens works salary wise in a 3 for 1. Need to flip Pritchard elsewhere as presumably 76ers want to keep cap space open. 3 for 1 math can be tough in general, but feels like that could be handled with 2nds. And then, provided that ownership would allow Stevens to actually re-sign him this offseason, I'd give up our 2024 1st and and maybe another future protected pick.
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Re: Tobias Harris / De'Anthony Melton Value Check 

Post#8 » by OGSactownballer » Mon Feb 5, 2024 4:03 pm

youngcrev wrote:The decision to have surgery now makes it more likely he'll be back this season, so I doubt they're going to go into sell mode.


So I have literally been doing sports medicine surgery for over twenty years and been part of developmental teams for much of the current devices and procedures used in meniscal repair.

While long term repairing the meniscus in an athlete who needs that to be functional - especially a guy as big as Embiid - to keep his knee surfaces from being damaged and having his career shortened by cartilage damage due to lack of meniscus cushioning, you need to be realistic about a very overly optimistic timeline.

Recovery from the procedure alone (depending on physician preference and his actual healing timeline) is a MINIMUM of 6-8 weeks. Most of that is severely limited activity and non weight bearing.

Assuming the absolute best possible scenario of six weeks (highly unlikely given his history) it would then be another six weeks of rehab and strengthening. Remember that first six weeks he may be able to do upper body weight training but no lower body and no cardio (endurance and breathing). So that’s three months from now to START basketball activities again. That’s May.

So even if you assume a first round win, you are talking taking a big risk of another and more serious injury by pushing back for a hard maybe I. This years playoffs and again that’s assuming a first round win WITHOUT Embiid and likely having lost home court by then.

Personally I hope for his sake and for Philly’s next five seasons he opts to be smart and shut it down and do a full and complete rehab to be prepared for next season. It’s the smart thing to do and not the very short sighted o e that could potentially end up being the beginning of the end of his career. It’s always touchy with injuries to the lower body for big guys.
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Re: Tobias Harris / De'Anthony Melton Value Check 

Post#9 » by OGSactownballer » Mon Feb 5, 2024 4:05 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:I don't expect Philly to punt on this season or free agency next year unless a deal makes sense.


I agree nor should they just do that.

Now if it is a deal that makes sense and gives them a stronger team around Embiid NEXT YEAR - and going forward? They absolutely should just pull the plug and do it.
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Re: Tobias Harris / De'Anthony Melton Value Check 

Post#10 » by youngcrev » Mon Feb 5, 2024 9:13 pm

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youngcrev wrote:The decision to have surgery now makes it more likely he'll be back this season, so I doubt they're going to go into sell mode.


So I have literally been doing sports medicine surgery for over twenty years and been part of developmental teams for much of the current devices and procedures used in meniscal repair.

While long term repairing the meniscus in an athlete who needs that to be functional - especially a guy as big as Embiid - to keep his knee surfaces from being damaged and having his career shortened by cartilage damage due to lack of meniscus cushioning, you need to be realistic about a very overly optimistic timeline.

Recovery from the procedure alone (depending on physician preference and his actual healing timeline) is a MINIMUM of 6-8 weeks. Most of that is severely limited activity and non weight bearing.

Assuming the absolute best possible scenario of six weeks (highly unlikely given his history) it would then be another six weeks of rehab and strengthening. Remember that first six weeks he may be able to do upper body weight training but no lower body and no cardio (endurance and breathing). So that’s three months from now to START basketball activities again. That’s May.

So even if you assume a first round win, you are talking taking a big risk of another and more serious injury by pushing back for a hard maybe I. This years playoffs and again that’s assuming a first round win WITHOUT Embiid and likely having lost home court by then.

Personally I hope for his sake and for Philly’s next five seasons he opts to be smart and shut it down and do a full and complete rehab to be prepared for next season. It’s the smart thing to do and not the very short sighted o e that could potentially end up being the beginning of the end of his career. It’s always touchy with injuries to the lower body for big guys.


I was going off the assumption that he was getting a removal done rather than a repair based on the timelines given. There seems to be varying reports on what procedure he is getting done, but with the timelines being presented it's hard to imagine they're talking about a repair.

Seems like the options on the table were rehab 4-6 weeks and see if it improves on its own (and possibly still need the surgery if it doesn't) or simply get the surgery to trim it now, which has a similar timeline.
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Re: Tobias Harris / De'Anthony Melton Value Check 

Post#11 » by Godaddycurse » Mon Feb 5, 2024 10:24 pm

Detroit is going to max tobias in offseason probsbly ala FVV. Cant imagine he fetch very much as a rental
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Re: Tobias Harris / De'Anthony Melton Value Check 

Post#12 » by Clav » Tue Feb 6, 2024 12:30 am

They should sell now because it is possible to reduce the tax bill this season and reposition for a stronger campaign next year.

Harris is a bit hard to pin, late first to some seconds ? He's worth more with salary in conjunction with other players that are longer term options or other expirings that bring less salary back to PHL within the allowed level.

I think Melton would be attractive to some other teams for the POs so a late first or some seconds might be a nice trade for Philly.
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