Royce Rolls to Cleveland

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Royce Rolls to Cleveland 

Post#1 » by babyjax13 » Thu Feb 8, 2024 2:45 am

CLE trades: Dean Wade, Ty Jerome, 2025 MIL 2nd, 2026 CLE 2nd, 2027 DEN 2nd, 2028 CLE 2nd, 2029 CLE 2nd
BRK trades: Royce O'neale

Cleveland grabs Donovan's friend & a good fit for them at the 3. They also move off of Wade's future money (he's fine, but probably not worth it).

Brooklyn trades Royce for a ton of seconds. They likely release Jerome, and Wade is a bit overpaid but is still a rotation level player in the NBA.
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Re: Royce Rolls to Cleveland 

Post#2 » by psman2 » Thu Feb 8, 2024 2:48 am

How much can I bet the under on 5 2nds for Royce. This seems like Clev is getting a friend tax of 2 2nds to me.
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Re: Royce Rolls to Cleveland 

Post#3 » by babyjax13 » Thu Feb 8, 2024 2:50 am

psman2 wrote:How much can I bet the under on 5 2nds for Royce. This seems like Clev is getting a friend tax of 2 2nds to me.

They are paying to move off of Wade, too. I assume that's worth at least 1 2nd, if not 2.
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Re: Royce Rolls to Cleveland 

Post#4 » by HornetJail » Thu Feb 8, 2024 2:50 am

doesn't cleveland also like Dean Wade a lot?
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Post#5 » by psman2 » Thu Feb 8, 2024 2:52 am

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psman2 wrote:How much can I bet the under on 5 2nds for Royce. This seems like Clev is getting a friend tax of 2 2nds to me.

They are paying to move off of Wade, too. I assume that's worth at least 1 2nd, if not 2.


I got Wade at worst neutral here. He is a solid 8th man making 8th man money. Brooklyn might not want him due to the FA plans but I wouldn't accept a negative 2 2nds penalty applied to him in this type of move.
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Post#6 » by HartfordWhalers » Thu Feb 8, 2024 2:55 am

I have this as 2-3 too many 2nds.
But the title is worth at least one 2nd.
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Re: Royce Rolls to Cleveland 

Post#7 » by DowJones » Thu Feb 8, 2024 2:55 am

I like Wade. I think he is a solid player. I don’t want to trade him at all, let alone add 5 2nd round picks.
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Re: Royce Rolls to Cleveland 

Post#8 » by jbk1234 » Thu Feb 8, 2024 3:20 am

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psman2 wrote:How much can I bet the under on 5 2nds for Royce. This seems like Clev is getting a friend tax of 2 2nds to me.

They are paying to move off of Wade, too. I assume that's worth at least 1 2nd, if not 2.


They're paying to move off the guy who was pretty important as a starter when Garland and Mobley went down?

Why?
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Post#9 » by jbk1234 » Thu Feb 8, 2024 3:22 am

HornetJail wrote:doesn't cleveland also like Dean Wade a lot?


Yes, the premise is beyond silly.
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Re: Royce Rolls to Cleveland 

Post#10 » by mcfly1204 » Thu Feb 8, 2024 3:50 am

jbk1234 wrote:
HornetJail wrote:doesn't cleveland also like Dean Wade a lot?


Yes, the premise is beyond silly.

My hope for Wade is still 2021-22 Kevin Love, but with better defense.
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Post#11 » by jbk1234 » Thu Feb 8, 2024 3:55 am

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jbk1234 wrote:
HornetJail wrote:doesn't cleveland also like Dean Wade a lot?


Yes, the premise is beyond silly.

My hope for Wade is still 2021-22 Kevin Love, but with better defense.


He's never going to shoot as well as Love, he'll always play better defense. He makes $6M per. If Mitchell doesn't leave, having a guy like that is about to become very important.
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Re: Royce Rolls to Cleveland 

Post#12 » by toooskies » Thu Feb 8, 2024 4:18 am

The Cavs cannot trade Wade without acquiring a stretch big. He's in a real role on this team while O'Neale might not crack the rotation.

I wouldn't trade Wade straight up.

In addition, the Cavs can't really do this and avoid the tax.

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