Give me Moore: Wendell to Portland

[babyjax13]

MIN trades: Wendell Moore, 2025 UTA 2nd, cash (to pay for Moses Brown buyout)
POR trades: nothing (uses one of Josh Hart/Gary Payton TPE)

Minnesota opens up some more room to be active in the buyout market. Portland gets a second to take Wendell Moore. He's probably not worth a look at, but was a first-round pick relatively recently so maybe a new environment unlocks something.

[winforlose]

Question. Is it NBA legal to drop to 12 roster players for any length of time? We had 14, traded 2-1 and now have 13. If we dump Wendell we will have 12. Assuming we plan to sign 2 buyout guys, do we have any timeframe which we can wait to see who is bought out?

Also Babyjax, I don’t think a 2nd is needed here. I think Cash should be enough. In theory we could pay the entire cost of his contract next year.

[babyjax13]

Question. Is it NBA legal to drop to 12 roster players for any length of time? We had 14, traded 2-1 and now have 13. If we dump Wendell we will have 12. Assuming we plan to sign 2 buyout guys, do we have any timeframe which we can wait to see who is bought out?

Also Babyjax, I don’t think a 2nd is needed here. I think Cash should be enough. In theory we could pay the entire cost of his contract next year.

I am not sure if they can drop to 12. If not, perhaps just sign Garza to a standard contract and still play the buyout market with about $1.5 million more in wiggle room to do so? RE: the second, if Minnesota sends enough to pay for both Wendell Moore and Moses Brown that seems reasonable.

[tacos]

Question. Is it NBA legal to drop to 12 roster players for any length of time? We had 14, traded 2-1 and now have 13. If we dump Wendell we will have 12. Assuming we plan to sign 2 buyout guys, do we have any timeframe which we can wait to see who is bought out?

Also Babyjax, I don’t think a 2nd is needed here. I think Cash should be enough. In theory we could pay the entire cost of his contract next year.

I am not sure if they can drop to 12. If not, perhaps just sign Garza to a standard contract and still play the buyout market with about $1.5 million more in wiggle room to do so? RE: the second, if Minnesota sends enough to pay for both Wendell Moore and Moses Brown that seems reasonable.

A team can carry as few as 11 active players for up to two weeks at a time or up to 28 total days during a regular season.

Moore is low ceiling low floor so i would want compensated for the parking space i roster and cap next year... we have 4 picks this draft to evaluate in addition to our already healthy youth movement

The OP would work nicely though

Edit: Also Moses Brown can come too

[winforlose]

Question. Is it NBA legal to drop to 12 roster players for any length of time? We had 14, traded 2-1 and now have 13. If we dump Wendell we will have 12. Assuming we plan to sign 2 buyout guys, do we have any timeframe which we can wait to see who is bought out?

Also Babyjax, I don’t think a 2nd is needed here. I think Cash should be enough. In theory we could pay the entire cost of his contract next year.

I am not sure if they can drop to 12. If not, perhaps just sign Garza to a standard contract and still play the buyout market with about $1.5 million more in wiggle room to do so? RE: the second, if Minnesota sends enough to pay for both Wendell Moore and Moses Brown that seems reasonable.

A team can carry as few as 11 active players for up to two weeks at a time or up to 28 total days during a regular season.

Moore is low ceiling low floor so i would want compensated for the parking space i roster and cap next year... we have 4 picks this draft to evaluate in addition to our already healthy youth movement

The OP would work nicely though

Thank you Tacos. That is good info to have going into tomorrow. Regarding Moore, we have 3 seconds in the next 7 years and no trade able firsts. I don’t see us dumping one to dump Moore. I think someone will take Cash to roster him this year and dump him next year (or move him as expiring filler in a trade.) I don’t know what his actual ceiling is. I do know that compared to last year he really spent the summer digging up his floor. Is he worth a literal free peak if we pay cash for his removal, maybe? Not gonna advocate for it, but he is a sophomore player drafted for Defense, so who knows.

[babyjax13]

I am not sure if they can drop to 12. If not, perhaps just sign Garza to a standard contract and still play the buyout market with about $1.5 million more in wiggle room to do so? RE: the second, if Minnesota sends enough to pay for both Wendell Moore and Moses Brown that seems reasonable.

A team can carry as few as 11 active players for up to two weeks at a time or up to 28 total days during a regular season.

Moore is low ceiling low floor so i would want compensated for the parking space i roster and cap next year... we have 4 picks this draft to evaluate in addition to our already healthy youth movement

The OP would work nicely though

Thank you Tacos. That is good info to have going into tomorrow. Regarding Moore, we have 3 seconds in the next 7 years and no trade able firsts. I don’t see us dumping one to dump Moore. I think someone will take Cash to roster him this year and dump him next year (or move him as expiring filler in a trade.) I don’t know what his actual ceiling is. I do know that compared to last year he really spent the summer digging up his floor. Is he worth a literal free peak if we pay cash for his removal, maybe? Not gonna advocate for it, but he is a sophomore player drafted for Defense, so who knows.

If his option is picked up next year no one is taking him for free.

[tacos]

I am not sure if they can drop to 12. If not, perhaps just sign Garza to a standard contract and still play the buyout market with about $1.5 million more in wiggle room to do so? RE: the second, if Minnesota sends enough to pay for both Wendell Moore and Moses Brown that seems reasonable.

A team can carry as few as 11 active players for up to two weeks at a time or up to 28 total days during a regular season.

Moore is low ceiling low floor so i would want compensated for the parking space i roster and cap next year... we have 4 picks this draft to evaluate in addition to our already healthy youth movement

The OP would work nicely though

Thank you Tacos. That is good info to have going into tomorrow. Regarding Moore, we have 3 seconds in the next 7 years and no trade able firsts. I don’t see us dumping one to dump Moore. I think someone will take Cash to roster him this year and dump him next year (or move him as expiring filler in a trade.) I don’t know what his actual ceiling is. I do know that compared to last year he really spent the summer digging up his floor. Is he worth a literal free peak if we pay cash for his removal, maybe? Not gonna advocate for it, but he is a sophomore player drafted for Defense, so who knows.

Yeah I hear that... especially since this is looking like you guys are finally putting it together

[winforlose]

A team can carry as few as 11 active players for up to two weeks at a time or up to 28 total days during a regular season.

Moore is low ceiling low floor so i would want compensated for the parking space i roster and cap next year... we have 4 picks this draft to evaluate in addition to our already healthy youth movement

The OP would work nicely though

Thank you Tacos. That is good info to have going into tomorrow. Regarding Moore, we have 3 seconds in the next 7 years and no trade able firsts. I don’t see us dumping one to dump Moore. I think someone will take Cash to roster him this year and dump him next year (or move him as expiring filler in a trade.) I don’t know what his actual ceiling is. I do know that compared to last year he really spent the summer digging up his floor. Is he worth a literal free peak if we pay cash for his removal, maybe? Not gonna advocate for it, but he is a sophomore player drafted for Defense, so who knows.

If his option is picked up next year no one is taking him for free.

It is. But I am not advocating taking him for free. I am talking about paying 4+ in cash which is his whole cost. Worst case you cut him next year. Best case you get expiring trade filler, or he turns things around and looks more like last year. Last year he wasn’t good, but he looked like a potential 3rd string NBA player.

[babyjax13]

Thank you Tacos. That is good info to have going into tomorrow. Regarding Moore, we have 3 seconds in the next 7 years and no trade able firsts. I don’t see us dumping one to dump Moore. I think someone will take Cash to roster him this year and dump him next year (or move him as expiring filler in a trade.) I don’t know what his actual ceiling is. I do know that compared to last year he really spent the summer digging up his floor. Is he worth a literal free peak if we pay cash for his removal, maybe? Not gonna advocate for it, but he is a sophomore player drafted for Defense, so who knows.

If his option is picked up next year no one is taking him for free.

It is. But I am not advocating taking him for free. I am talking about paying 4+ in cash which is his whole cost. Worst case you cut him next year. Best case you get expiring trade filler, or he turns things around and looks more like last year. Last year he wasn’t good, but he looked like a potential 3rd string NBA player.

I don't see anyone tying up future cap just for cash if the player hasn't shown anything.

[winforlose]

If his option is picked up next year no one is taking him for free.

It is. But I am not advocating taking him for free. I am talking about paying 4+ in cash which is his whole cost. Worst case you cut him next year. Best case you get expiring trade filler, or he turns things around and looks more like last year. Last year he wasn’t good, but he looked like a potential 3rd string NBA player.

I don't see anyone tying up future cap just for cash if the player hasn't shown anything.

Maybe you are right. Maybe not. Again, his first year wasn’t nothing. His G league numbers were not special but they weren’t a disaster either. He was drafted for his defense. I honestly believe he just needs a fresh start, and someone might give it to him. I have seen crazier things then a guy who was average just collapse and then recover. Shake Milton was a shell of himself in Minnesota, but in Detroit I expect some level of return to form. The guy is in his second year and does defend well. I could see someone taking a flyer on him.

[The Sebastian Express]

Sure. Especially since this is in 2025 and not 2024.

[winforlose]

Sure. Especially since this is in 2025 and not 2024.

Did you reverse it or am I missing something?

[shrink]

I like the concept of trade, and I’ve advocated for it on the Wolves board for a while! POR seems like a very likely team too, with 13 on their roster today, and unlikely to be a big enough cap space player that $2 mil next year is going to affect them. However, the rosters for 29 teams could look very different 12 hours from now. POR may say no because they do a trade today that adds a lot of players, but other teams may emerge.

Jon Krawcinski has said that the owners don’t care about the Conley bonus - if he gets it, it means they are in the NBA Finals, and they will be too happy to mind, so they may keep Wendell and simply use their current $1.5 mil under the lux on buy out candidates. Personally, you and I think that’s easily remedied with the Wendell trade, which can remove that risk, and still meet roster sizes later.

I don’t put a lot of value on 2nd rounders, but I still don’t think one is necessary here, and $3 mil cash will get the job done. WMJ hasn’t done much as a pro yet, but he was a multi-skilled Dukie, Tim Connelly has a reputation for an eye for talent, and he chose to pick up his option for next year, just three months earlier. $3 mil in cash would pay for all of Moore’s salary, so they would get a free look. I also think if the team really wanted a second, they could probably buy one for $3 mil.

[The Sebastian Express]

Sure. Especially since this is in 2025 and not 2024.

Did you reverse it or am I missing something?

The original trade: MIN trades: Wendell Moore, 2025 UTA 2nd,

I said sure because this means Portland gets a 2025 second and not a 2024. Portland doens't need more 2024 picks.

[winforlose]

Sure. Especially since this is in 2025 and not 2024.

Did you reverse it or am I missing something?

The original trade: MIN trades: Wendell Moore, 2025 UTA 2nd,

I said sure because this means Portland gets a 2025 second and not a 2024. Portland doens't need more 2024 picks.

Gotcha. I did miss something