Jaylen Brown Trade Options?

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Re: Jaylen Brown Trade Options? 

Post#81 » by 165bows » Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:49 pm

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Wolveswin wrote:And it’s not 3 future LAL picks (most likely). It’s 2024 (14th’ish) and 29/31. I just don’t see Pels taking #14 when unprotected in 2025 which is suppose to be better draft. Let it ride.

That isn’t a great offer compared to others with much better (and sooner) draft capital. And yes, not close to enough for Brown.

They can also unprotect their outstanding pick to Utah. Plus swaps etc. Come to think it, maybe BOS lands a swap out of it as well, prob fair really.


If the Celtics had draft assets like that, and didn't have Brown, and Brown were available for trade, they'd gladly trade them for him so as to build a championship roster.

Well right, that's the whole point, there are very few options that make sense for them. Similar to a year ago, people want to propose Brown trades with PG/SG coming back, it just doesn't make sense for this team same as it didn't then.

If we take the hypothetical, Markannen/Sexton works with LAL involved, with Ainge taking over most of of LA's future draft rights. That works directionally for all teams involved, or at least has a chance to.

Impending FA Mitchell, PGs like Young, Murray etc, either aren't good enough to make sense or just don't fit Boston at all. Boston's not going back to the three guards days regardless of all the other details.
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Re: Jaylen Brown Trade Options? 

Post#82 » by Wolveswin » Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:53 pm

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That doesn't seem like enough for Brown.

And it’s not 3 future LAL picks (most likely). It’s 2024 (14th’ish) and 29/31. I just don’t see Pels taking #14 when unprotected in 2025 which is suppose to be better draft. Let it ride.

That isn’t a great offer compared to others with much better (and sooner) draft capital. And yes, not close to enough for Brown.

They can also unprotect their outstanding pick to Utah. Plus swaps etc. Come to think it, maybe BOS lands a swap out of it as well, prob fair really.

How does that help Boston? It doesn’t.
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Re: Jaylen Brown Trade Options? 

Post#83 » by jayjaysee » Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:26 pm

There’s a three team trade where Brown goes to Atlanta, picks+Capela+Bogdan go to Brooklyn, and Boston gets Bridges and saves 100 million a year or so..

It’s not a good idea for Boston IMO. But Brooklyn has the TPE (and Atlanta has a big one as well if you need it to be a bigger deal) to make it work
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Re: Jaylen Brown Trade Options? 

Post#84 » by Cricket23 » Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:34 pm

I know other Boston fans would probably hate this, but I think the idea of putting Randle in a frontcourt with Tatum and KP is intriguing. NY would also send out 1 of Hart, Bojan, or DD to Boston for wing depth, or perhaps to a 3rd team with cap space (Orlando?), with draft equity going back to Boston. I'm not sure of the financials, but if something like that could get Boston out of the tax and allow them to perhaps use the MLE, it could be appealing.
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Re: Jaylen Brown Trade Options? 

Post#85 » by Wolveswin » Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:46 pm

jayjaysee wrote:There’s a three team trade where Brown goes to Atlanta, picks+Capela+Bogdan go to Brooklyn, and Boston gets Bridges and saves 100 million a year or so..

It’s not a good idea for Boston IMO. But Brooklyn has the TPE (and Atlanta has a big one as well if you need it to be a bigger deal) to make it work

How about this…

To Rockets: Brown + Walsh + 24 Celtics 1st + Future Celtics 1st (or 2?)

To Nets: Amen + All Own 1sts Back + Rockets Salary Filler Needed (Tate? + ?)

To Celtics: Bridges + Jalen Green

Rockets may want Bridges directly but maybe that ship has sailed. Instead, they get playoff tested vet ready to lead their youth.
Sengun
Jabari | Eason
Brooks | Whitmore
Brown
FVV

Celtics get value contract Bridges as Brown replacement and Jalen to learn from Holiday and White as microwave scorer off bench.
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Re: Jaylen Brown Trade Options? 

Post#86 » by 165bows » Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:25 pm

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Wolveswin wrote:And it’s not 3 future LAL picks (most likely). It’s 2024 (14th’ish) and 29/31. I just don’t see Pels taking #14 when unprotected in 2025 which is suppose to be better draft. Let it ride.

That isn’t a great offer compared to others with much better (and sooner) draft capital. And yes, not close to enough for Brown.

They can also unprotect their outstanding pick to Utah. Plus swaps etc. Come to think it, maybe BOS lands a swap out of it as well, prob fair really.

How does that help Boston? It doesn’t.

Well if you read my original post, that was the basic structure of the deal, not that there couldn't be additional smaller parts. Point is most of the posters here don't really see what Boston would be looking for, and it's not smaller offensively oriented guards (or guards that aren't good at offense at all).

This is multiple years running where people forget Brown plays half his time at SF, and adding another starting guard while taking that away isn't a good plan when they already have two starters at guard in place.
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Re: Jaylen Brown Trade Options? 

Post#87 » by basketballwacko2 » Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:25 pm

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I mean you could argue semantics but I’d argue that a young nba all star in Markkanen on a good deal holds a lot more value to a team like Boston then rotational players or late first rounders. You could look at a package of first round picks as a haul however if they are all late round picks that don’t result in much I’d question the return. When KD trade happened everyone loved the return for Brooklynn yet I have to wonder how well they’re set up for the future as of right now.


How do the LAL get the assets to trade for Brown?????

Basing it on the reports that they didn't make a move at the deadline to make a bigger move this summer. So the 3 future LAL unprotected firsts plus whatever else.

I don't think it's likely, I just think it's more likely than all the other ideas here put together.


One of the 3 #1's would have to be the 2024 pick after they make it assuming the Hornets defer to 2025. The add the 29 and 31 which can't be done until after the 2024 draft. They could add swaps in 2026 and 28 and 30, but I'm not seeing that as enough to get Brown along with some matching salary like Hachimura, DAR and maybe Reaves if they like him.
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Re: Jaylen Brown Trade Options? 

Post#88 » by 165bows » Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:31 pm

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How do the LAL get the assets to trade for Brown?????

Basing it on the reports that they didn't make a move at the deadline to make a bigger move this summer. So the 3 future LAL unprotected firsts plus whatever else.

I don't think it's likely, I just think it's more likely than all the other ideas here put together.


One of the 3 #1's would have to be the 2024 pick after they make it assuming the Hornets defer to 2025. The add the 29 and 31 which can't be done until after the 2024 draft. They could add swaps in 2026 and 28 and 30, but I'm not seeing that as enough to get Brown along with some matching salary like Hachimura, DAR and maybe Reaves if they like him.

Yeah I always undersell it since if I add more people get cranky. Utah I'm sure would ask for swaps and there'd be some other stuff moved around, maybe Boston comes away with a swap(s) or something also.

I think a Markannen/Sexton package is pretty darn valuable (less so now that Markannen is becoming an expiring) but personally (fine if others disagree) I do think Brown is more valuable. But it does create some flexibility, depth and cost savings for Boston (per the OP) and that isn't zero value. But yeah I agree there could be more value added towards Boston or given to Utah, I'm not arguing that.
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Re: Jaylen Brown Trade Options? 

Post#89 » by jayjaysee » Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:32 pm

Wolveswin wrote:
jayjaysee wrote:There’s a three team trade where Brown goes to Atlanta, picks+Capela+Bogdan go to Brooklyn, and Boston gets Bridges and saves 100 million a year or so..

It’s not a good idea for Boston IMO. But Brooklyn has the TPE (and Atlanta has a big one as well if you need it to be a bigger deal) to make it work

How about this…

To Rockets: Brown + Walsh + 24 Celtics 1st + Future Celtics 1st (or 2?)

To Nets: Amen + All Own 1sts Back + Rockets Salary Filler Needed (Tate? + ?)

To Celtics: Bridges + Jalen Green

Rockets may want Bridges directly but maybe that ship has sailed. Instead, they get playoff tested vet ready to lead their youth.
Sengun
Jabari | Eason
Brooks | Whitmore
Brown
FVV

Celtics get value contract Bridges as Brown replacement and Jalen to learn from Holiday and White as microwave scorer off bench.


I don’t actually think Boston does many of these in this thread in real life.. but think Bridges is closer than the others as a base.

But it makes sense for the other two teams.
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Re: Jaylen Brown Trade Options? 

Post#90 » by Who-rod » Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:58 pm

DowJones wrote:Mitchell is better than Brown so that is a no. I would do Garland for Brown.


I'm not looking to trade Jaylen, but you'd have my attention.
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Re: Jaylen Brown Trade Options? 

Post#91 » by BK_2020 » Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:12 am

Cricket23 wrote:I know other Boston fans would probably hate this, but I think the idea of putting Randle in a frontcourt with Tatum and KP is intriguing.

Only if Randle is on the opposing team.

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