Way too early…what Detroit can get for their top pick

[GoBobs]

Det is to early in the process to be thinking about this. Going all in when you really don't have anything to build around can be a disaster. Just look at the Bulls, and they were closer then Det is now when they started putting that team together.

Take the shot at getting a rookie star that comes with all those years of team control.

[Special_Puppy]

The last time you had a young player for 1st overall trade it was Kevin Love, who was a 25 year old 3 time All-Star, 2 time All-NBA level player, joining a team that was ready to win right away. It was also the worst draft ever. Deni Avjda is not the level of player who brings back a 1st round pick even in a fairly unimpressive draft.

People were amped about that draft in my recollection.

Yeah the draft was pretty highly anticipated. I think OP is thinking about 2013

Watch on YouTube

;t=1715s

[babyjax13]

I suspect Utah would have reservations, but I'd move our pick in a package for Markannen IF he agreed to extend for a few years (without looking it up though I wonder if that will be difficult, as his extension will only be able to be a certain percentage above his current salary which is dirt cheap given his value).

Another young player with potential is always nice, but we need to get some talent around our young core and start to build a winning culture.

I can't imagine us trading Lauri for the first pick in this draft. There is no clear #1 and the lottery looks worse than usual. Certainly there will be very good players, but there will likely be more variance than usual in terms of where they get picked. I'd rather just keep Lauri, there is no guarantee a better player gets drafted this year, and even less of one that you make the right pick.

[babyjax13]

The last time you had a young player for 1st overall trade it was Kevin Love, who was a 25 year old 3 time All-Star, 2 time All-NBA level player, joining a team that was ready to win right away. It was also the worst draft ever. Deni Avjda is not the level of player who brings back a 1st round pick even in a fairly unimpressive draft.

People were amped about that draft in my recollection.

Yeah the draft was pretty highly anticipated. I think OP is thinking about 2013

Watch on YouTube

;t=1715s

Yup. I think this draft looks slightly better than 2013 pre draft.

[NYG]

People were amped about that draft in my recollection.

Yeah the draft was pretty highly anticipated. I think OP is thinking about 2013

Watch on YouTube

;t=1715s

Yup. I think this draft looks slightly better than 2013 pre draft.

I see this draft being similar to 2020...

https://www.nba.com/news/2020-nba-draft-results-picks-1-60

I usually put together a consensus of rankings from ESPN, NBADraft.net, The Ringer, Bleacher Report, and CBS (I find these sites to be most in line with what NBA teams think versus sites that do their rankings based on their scouting) then average them out. The weird thing is... usually, there's a range where different guys are, but literally from 1st on down this year, everyone has pretty different ranges for each prospect.

[NYG]

This is the top 30 from the above-mentioned averaged-out list as of now btw...

1 Alex Sarr
2 Zaccharie Risacher
3 Ja'Kobe Walter
4 Cody Williams
5 Matas Buzelis
6 Nikola Topic
7 Kyle Filipowski
8 Ron Holland
9 Isaiah Collier
10 Robert Dillingham
11 Stephon Castle
12 Reed Sheppard
13 Donovan Clingan
14 Kevin McCullar
15 Bobi Klintman
16 Tidjane Salaun
17 Dalton Knecht
18 Tyler Smith
19 Ryan Dunn
20 Yves Missi
21 Tyrese Proctor
22 Justin Edwards
23 Kel'el Ware
24 Izan Almansa
25 Trevon Brazile
26 D.J. Wagner
27 Zach Edey
28 Jared McCain
29 Kanaan Carlyle
30 Trey Alexander

[JeffFosters]

I’d probably rather gamble of Risacher or Sarr than trade it tbh. At most I’d consider trading down to 2 or 3 if one team falls in love with one of the top picks.

[wegotthabeet]

I can only remember a few times where a top 5 pick was traded for a player and not another top pick or future picks.

1. The 2nd overall pick (Tyson Chandler) for Elton Brand.

2. The 5th overall pick (Jonathan Bender) for Antonio Davis.

3. The 5th overall pick (Jeff Green) for Ray Allen.

It could make sense for someone like Bridges but it doesn’t seem like the Nets would move him for that. Is Lauri available for a top 5 pick? Probably not. I just don’t see a deal out there for the Pistons that makes sense for both teams.

[eitanr]

I can only remember a few times where a top 5 pick was traded for a player and not another top pick or future picks.

1. The 2nd overall pick (Tyson Chandler) for Elton Brand.

2. The 5th overall pick (Jonathan Bender) for Antonio Davis.

3. The 5th overall pick (Jeff Green) for Ray Allen.

It could make sense for someone like Bridges but it doesn’t seem like the Nets would move him for that. Is Lauri available for a top 5 pick? Probably not. I just don’t see a deal out there for the Pistons that makes sense for both teams.

It is defintely super rare, but based on the above, it happens when teams are dead set on an aggressive rebuild. I feel like Ainge is, so there is an opening. Now, Utah would likely ask for at least either Thompson or Ivey + pick OR the pick and future pick swaps...both are risky.

Also, like Krause with Chicago, I sense Ainge wants to double down on a rebuild and finally bottom out. He could consider such a move bc it ensures Utah has a better shot at the 2025 draft, and he could covet Cooper as well.

For Detroit, Sarr is the best option. If Sarr's status falls to 4-5 it could be simplier to do a pick swap and get future assets in the process instead.

[nate33]

I can only remember a few times where a top 5 pick was traded for a player and not another top pick or future picks.

1. The 2nd overall pick (Tyson Chandler) for Elton Brand.

2. The 5th overall pick (Jonathan Bender) for Antonio Davis.

3. The 5th overall pick (Jeff Green) for Ray Allen.

It could make sense for someone like Bridges but it doesn’t seem like the Nets would move him for that. Is Lauri available for a top 5 pick? Probably not. I just don’t see a deal out there for the Pistons that makes sense for both teams.

It is defintely super rare, but based on the above, it happens when teams are dead set on an aggressive rebuild. I feel like Ainge is, so there is an opening. Now, Utah would likely ask for at least either Thompson or Ivey + pick OR the pick and future pick swaps...both are risky.

Also, like Krause with Chicago, I sense Ainge wants to double down on a rebuild and finally bottom out. He could consider such a move bc it ensures Utah has a better shot at the 2025 draft, and he could covet Cooper as well.

For Detroit, Sarr is the best option. If Sarr's status falls to 4-5 it could be simplier to do a pick swap and get future assets in the process instead.

Utah appears to be tanking hard after the Trade Deadline, presumably because the pick that they owe OKC is top 10 protected in 2024 and 2025 and top 8 protected in 2026. They'll probably succeed in tanking this year, but it's going to be hard to keep tanking in the future as their young guys continue improve unless they move Markkanen. So that suggests Markkanen is obtainable.

[brackdan70]

The last time you had a young player for 1st overall trade it was Kevin Love, who was a 25 year old 3 time All-Star, 2 time All-NBA level player, joining a team that was ready to win right away. It was also the worst draft ever. Deni Avjda is not the level of player who brings back a 1st round pick even in a fairly unimpressive draft.

People were amped about that draft in my recollection.

It was not a bad draft, but it was pretty average after Embiid broke his foot. Wiggins had tons of question marks for a #1 prospect.

That was considered an exceptional draft class. Only in hindsight would we say it’s not that great.

[165bows]

People were amped about that draft in my recollection.

It was not a bad draft, but it was pretty average after Embiid broke his foot. Wiggins had tons of question marks for a #1 prospect.

That was considered an exceptional draft class. Only in hindsight would we say it’s not that great.

Pretty much the weird hard-core NBA draftniks love ignoring the entire 2014 college season, it's kind of like hipsters hating music that's popular.

[HadAnEffectHere]

It was not a bad draft, but it was pretty average after Embiid broke his foot. Wiggins had tons of question marks for a #1 prospect.

That was considered an exceptional draft class. Only in hindsight would we say it’s not that great.

Pretty much the weird hard-core NBA draftniks love ignoring the entire 2014 college season, it's kind of like hipsters hating music that's popular.

What? Wiggins sucked for most of the year and had a historic choke in the postseason. The 2014 draft class would have been very highly hyped if Embiid hadn't broken his foot, but by the time of the draft, it was looking pretty dicey at top. Exum had a lot of hype, but he hadn't played any real games in like 10 months. The top 5 was all ultra high risk, high reward.

[theBigLip]

Risacher or Williams seem like good picks. Sarr as well, but he’s probably better as trade bait. Ideally Pistons get #1 pick, get a team at 2 or 3 to trade up for Sarr, and Pistons still get either Risacher or Williams. Of course the Pistons suck at the lottery, so they will likely get pick #5.