The Jazz's crossroads

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Re: The Jazz's crossroads 

Post#21 » by tmorgan » Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:50 pm

I’m not Tom Gores, but I feel like he’d give Utah whatever the hell they want (outside of Cade) for Lauri, pay the penalty you speak of, and then give his whole organization a mandate to stop being so damn embarrassing. He doesn’t seem to understand a lot of it is his fault, forcing Weaver to hire Monty Williams even though the guy clearly doesn’t want to coach this team.

Our top 5 pick this year, plus Ivey, and something else not insignificant should be the offer. It can be a clear overpay and no one in Detroit will care.
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Re: The Jazz's crossroads 

Post#22 » by bkohler » Thu Mar 21, 2024 12:36 am

tmorgan wrote:I’m not Tom Gores, but I feel like he’d give Utah whatever the hell they want (outside of Cade) for Lauri, pay the penalty you speak of, and then give his whole organization a mandate to stop being so damn embarrassing. He doesn’t seem to understand a lot of it is his fault, forcing Weaver to hire Monty Williams even though the guy clearly doesn’t want to coach this team.

Our top 5 pick this year, plus Ivey, and something else not insignificant should be the offer. It can be a clear overpay and no one in Detroit will care.



If Ausar is on the table instead of or in addition to Ivey I think that would be something workable.
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Re: The Jazz's crossroads 

Post#23 » by tmorgan » Thu Mar 21, 2024 3:15 am

bkohler wrote:
tmorgan wrote:I’m not Tom Gores, but I feel like he’d give Utah whatever the hell they want (outside of Cade) for Lauri, pay the penalty you speak of, and then give his whole organization a mandate to stop being so damn embarrassing. He doesn’t seem to understand a lot of it is his fault, forcing Weaver to hire Monty Williams even though the guy clearly doesn’t want to coach this team.

Our top 5 pick this year, plus Ivey, and something else not insignificant should be the offer. It can be a clear overpay and no one in Detroit will care.



If Ausar is on the table instead of or in addition to Ivey I think that would be something workable.


Both and the pick is too much (my clear order is Ausar, Ivey, pick… this draft sucks), but I’d do Ausar and the pick. We needs changes, it reeks of terribleness in Detroit.
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Re: The Jazz's crossroads 

Post#24 » by the_process » Thu Mar 21, 2024 3:16 am

If Paul George stays put, I have to imagine Morey will call about Lauri.
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Re: The Jazz's crossroads 

Post#25 » by babyjax13 » Thu Mar 21, 2024 3:49 am

the_process wrote:If Paul George stays put, I have to imagine Morey will call about Lauri.

He can call but they don't have assets. Their firsts are not tradeable through 2028, so they just have 2029 (w/option to swap w/LAC) and 2031, and LAC's 2028 1st. So, at best, that is cap space and 3 1sts.
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Re: The Jazz's crossroads 

Post#26 » by babyjax13 » Thu Mar 21, 2024 3:50 am

bkohler wrote:
tmorgan wrote:I’m not Tom Gores, but I feel like he’d give Utah whatever the hell they want (outside of Cade) for Lauri, pay the penalty you speak of, and then give his whole organization a mandate to stop being so damn embarrassing. He doesn’t seem to understand a lot of it is his fault, forcing Weaver to hire Monty Williams even though the guy clearly doesn’t want to coach this team.

Our top 5 pick this year, plus Ivey, and something else not insignificant should be the offer. It can be a clear overpay and no one in Detroit will care.



If Ausar is on the table instead of or in addition to Ivey I think that would be something workable.

Ivey is a terrible fit with George so he'd have to be returning an asset from somewhere else.
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Re: The Jazz's crossroads 

Post#27 » by the_process » Thu Mar 21, 2024 1:17 pm

babyjax13 wrote:
the_process wrote:If Paul George stays put, I have to imagine Morey will call about Lauri.

He can call but they don't have assets. Their firsts are not tradeable through 2028, so they just have 2029 (w/option to swap w/LAC) and 2031, and LAC's 2028 1st. So, at best, that is cap space and 3 1sts.


They will have 5 1sts including 2024 available on draft night.
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Re: The Jazz's crossroads 

Post#28 » by jayjaysee » Thu Mar 21, 2024 3:16 pm

The cost is obviously a lot higher than stealing PG in free agency, but being able to do Reed+2024 pick(and all future picks) for Lauri, you don’t have to renounce Harris/Melton/Nico and can spend right up to the second apron..
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Re: The Jazz's crossroads 

Post#29 » by RookieJazz » Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:01 pm

To chase the pick this year and not convey to OKC was the stupidest thing Jazz could make. 2024 draft sucks and either we are giving up a pick in a better draft 2025 or losing the rights of swap picks in 2026. The only way this decision does not make Utah FO dumb is to acquire talent in the offseason and make the team significantly better next season.

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