Giannis to OKC

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Poll ended at Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:29 am

OKC
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Milwaukee
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Re: Giannis to OKC 

Post#21 » by Apz » Thu Apr 4, 2024 9:10 pm

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Why in God's name would the LAL trade him to a team that they'll be facing in the playoffs? If you hadn't noticed, AD is now the best player on the team. Lebron picks and chooses his moments, AD is the Lakers best player and the guy they'll be building around once Bron leaves.....


Because LAL’s championship window is over.



.....with Lebron. It's still the Lakers and they will have cap room. If I was a Mavs fan I'd be worried that they'll sign Luka when he's up for a new deal in a few yrs.

Also FTR, I do not think their window is closed. They can beat any team in the west aside from Denver. OKC should be praying they don't get LAL in the 1st round.


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Post#22 » by jakecronus8 » Thu Apr 4, 2024 9:42 pm

If Giannis asked out I'd love to see San Antonio nab him and make the league squirm with him and Wemby for a little dynasty run.
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Re: Giannis to OKC 

Post#23 » by RiotPunch » Thu Apr 4, 2024 11:14 pm

Mike lorenzo wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:Here we go again...

I get it, but any and all Giannis trades are DOA.

Yeah BUCKS underperform in Playoff do you think Lillard could somehow be available? I feel like they could still get a good haul from Lakers or Heat and they reorganize around Giannis

Not likely, but possible. Would be interested to see what those packages might look like.

Far more likely that they try to re-tool around Giannis & Dame, getting younger and more athletic around them. Limited assets to do that, obviously.
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Re: Giannis to OKC 

Post#24 » by Slim Charless » Fri Apr 5, 2024 2:15 am

Apz wrote:
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esvl wrote:
Because LAL’s championship window is over.



.....with Lebron. It's still the Lakers and they will have cap room. If I was a Mavs fan I'd be worried that they'll sign Luka when he's up for a new deal in a few yrs.

Also FTR, I do not think their window is closed. They can beat any team in the west aside from Denver. OKC should be praying they don't get LAL in the 1st round.


Luka wont say no to the supermax from mavs


Ben Simmons took a max and left. As did Bradley Beal. Both of them almost immediately. Getting a max means little and less nowadays.

Players will take the money and ask out if they want.....and they'll get their way.
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Post#25 » by jayjaysee » Fri Apr 5, 2024 11:04 am

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Apz wrote:
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.....with Lebron. It's still the Lakers and they will have cap room. If I was a Mavs fan I'd be worried that they'll sign Luka when he's up for a new deal in a few yrs.

Also FTR, I do not think their window is closed. They can beat any team in the west aside from Denver. OKC should be praying they don't get LAL in the 1st round.


Luka wont say no to the supermax from mavs


Ben Simmons took a max and left. As did Bradley Beal. Both of them almost immediately. Getting a max means little and less nowadays.

Players will take the money and ask out if they want.....and they'll get their way.


LAL being LAL means there’s a chance. I agree with that.

But in order to get AD and win that championship, LAL had to get an asset base. Which took a handful of losing seasons.

I don’t think Luka would is a lock to stay loyal to Dallas. Very few stars, even players, do that. Ever.

But I don’t expect him to walk in free agency and throw away that 20 million and just as important the security of getting it locked up in one season, versus having to play on a couple 1+1’sor a 2+1 to get to his 10th year. Which means Dallas will have the chance to trade Luka.

Whether it’s in 6-10 months or in 18-24 once he’s on a supermax..

And in a bidding war, LAL can’t win without those losing seasons building an asset base.
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Post#26 » by daoneandonly » Fri Apr 5, 2024 11:07 am

OKC is not getting a top 3 player without giving up both Chet and Jalen. The way these draft picks are being valued is getting ridiculous. First it was Luka with just Jalen, and now Giannis with just Chet
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Re: Giannis to OKC 

Post#27 » by Slim Charless » Fri Apr 5, 2024 5:19 pm

daoneandonly wrote:OKC is not getting a top 3 player without giving up both Chet and Jalen. The way these draft picks are being valued is getting ridiculous. First it was Luka with just Jalen, and now Giannis with just Chet
jbk1234 wrote:Needs Dieng, Wallace, Giddey, or possibly two of the three added. The Bucks have traded all of their picks. They're not going to want to completely bottom out.


I don't think that Jalen is possible with the additional 5 firsts that Milwaukee is getting. That said, maybe another asset is needed. Giddey needs a change of scenery and would be a help to Dame. This means Dame can play off ball with Giddey running the offense on occasion.

That seems fair.
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Re: Giannis to OKC 

Post#28 » by jayjaysee » Fri Apr 5, 2024 7:43 pm

Put my car up for sale since I am relocating again. A few people offered 20,000. Someone offered 25. But I know him and he can easily afford 30. So I’m going to threaten to take 20.
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Re: Giannis to OKC 

Post#29 » by Slim Charless » Sat Apr 6, 2024 4:26 am

jayjaysee wrote:Put my car up for sale since I am relocating again. A few people offered 20,000. Someone offered 25. But I know him and he can easily afford 30. So I’m going to threaten to take 20.


I still feel this is pretty fair across the board. Giddey+Chet and a landslide of picks to keep the thing going. As tonight proved......things are NOT good there.

Doc isn't going anywhere either, so they cannot fire yet another coach (should've kept Bud as anyone with a brain would see) they are stuck with Doc for at least another year and probably 2. Other things will need to change.

Guess we'll see how and where the team is in a month or 2.
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Re: Giannis to OKC 

Post#30 » by jayjaysee » Sat Apr 6, 2024 9:54 am

Slim Charless wrote:
jayjaysee wrote:Put my car up for sale since I am relocating again. A few people offered 20,000. Someone offered 25. But I know him and he can easily afford 30. So I’m going to threaten to take 20.


I still feel this is pretty fair across the board. Giddey+Chet and a landslide of picks to keep the thing going. As tonight proved......things are NOT good there.

Doc isn't going anywhere either, so they cannot fire yet another coach (should've kept Bud as anyone with a brain would see) they are stuck with Doc for at least another year and probably 2. Other things will need to change.

Guess we'll see how and where the team is in a month or 2.


Yeah, I don’t think Milwaukee will trade Giannis. And I’m a Dallas fan. But the top offer is the top offer. It doesn’t matter how many total assets a team has.
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Re: Giannis to OKC 

Post#31 » by Slim Charless » Mon Apr 8, 2024 3:08 pm

Slim Charless wrote:So not looking good for the Bucks recently....this is under the idea that Giannis asks out and for whatever reason wants to go from 1 small market to another.....

Who says no?

Milwaukee: Giannis

OKC:


Chet
Filler
2024 FRP
Two 2025 FRPs
2026 FRP
2027 FRP
Giddey


That's the trade.

Bucks get a elite big to build around as well as an additional 5 firsts to help. The can either trade Dame and rebuild around Chet or keep him and use those picks to add youth to the team. I believe the 5 firsts is the max 1 team can offer to another, as such that's what I did. Giddey needs a change of scenery and would be a great help to Dame running the offense to let him play off ball on occasion.

Thunder get 1 of the best players in the league and while losing a corner stone and a bunch of picks, they get freaking Giannis. They still, shockingly enough have many more picks to spare.

Who hangs up the phone?

(PS: There's no "both" option, because as I said Giannis has asked out. We're operating under the ideal that the Bucks are trading him)


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Re: Giannis to OKC 

Post#32 » by Euphonetiks » Mon Apr 8, 2024 3:15 pm

I don't think Giannis will be moved without the Pelicans being incorporated into the trade. Rebuilding in a small northern market is a Sisyphean task in itself, but doing so without access to your own draft picks is practically impossible. The Bucks cannot trade their star without getting back their 2026 Swap and 2027 1st.
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Re: Giannis to OKC 

Post#33 » by Xanadu » Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:18 am

Dont won't any late first if Giannis ask for a trade. If the choice's are either Chet or Jalen and not both then I take Jalen. This is a wings game and although Chet is definitely a rising star he tops out as 2 on a contender imo. Add that to remaining injury concerns and give me Williams. No we dont want Giddey he is worth a late first imo. He is not two player and even with a improved shot his impact will never be close to star level imo. Would try and see if Giannis/Midds package could get Williams and chet including some draft assets as well. I know Okc fans will act like i am asking for the moon even though its still a light return. Honest value imo, is Chet, Williams , Wallace, Dieng, and few first. The Bucks send whatever other vet OKC chooses to make salary work. But here is one OKC fans should jump at. Bucks want Dieng, Carson and Jalen for sure and whatever draft assets are the best from OKC. Even then unless Giannis is super pushy about getting out I stall as long as possible. Try and convince him to stay by any means.
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Re: Giannis to OKC 

Post#34 » by Laimbeer » Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:07 pm

How much difference is there in Giannis and Chet in trade value? Some, obviously, but is it really big? Giannis is a MVP-type player, but he's 30 next season and a tougher fit for OKC. Meanwhile, I don't think the Bucks are ready to dive into a rebuild while missing some of their own picks. The Giannis window is far from closed. No for both.
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