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[HartfordWhalers]

For value reporting purposes, Jazz local media is saying the Hawks offered Dejounte Murray for Keyonte George (?????) and the Jazz said no. Could have had other parts included though, of course.

Maybe it was a three team trade as Keyonte makes no sense for Atlanta.

Link? I have my thoughts on it but would like to see who is putting their word at that and how.

It's in this podcast.

https://kslsports.com/517568/jazz-mailbag-would-title-change-views-of-gobert-conley/

Starting at 37:00

Obviously there could have been other parts included, but the podcast makes it seem like George was a red line for both teams that killed the trade.

I would take it exactly as serious as I would take any surprising trade rumor that seems one sided and comes from a guy who follows the team it is one sided for and doesn't have any audience (under 18k followers on twitter for instance).

[SkyHook]

For value reporting purposes, Jazz local media is saying the Hawks offered or suggested Dejounte Murray for Keyonte George (?????) and the Jazz said no. Could have had other parts included though, of course.

Maybe it was a three team trade as Keyonte makes no sense for Atlanta.

Too bad. I'm more than ready to move on from Keyonte.

[HadAnEffectHere]

Link? I have my thoughts on it but would like to see who is putting their word at that and how.

It's in this podcast.

https://kslsports.com/517568/jazz-mailbag-would-title-change-views-of-gobert-conley/

Starting at 37:00

Obviously there could have been other parts included, but the podcast makes it seem like George was a red line for both teams that killed the trade.

I would take it exactly as serious as I would take any surprising trade rumor that seems one sided and comes from a guy who follows the team it is one sided for and doesn't have any audience (under 18k followers on twitter for instance).

Ehh, there have been a ton of rumors that the Jazz were trying to trade for Dejounte at the deadline before this.

[HartfordWhalers]

It's in this podcast.

https://kslsports.com/517568/jazz-mailbag-would-title-change-views-of-gobert-conley/

Starting at 37:00

Obviously there could have been other parts included, but the podcast makes it seem like George was a red line for both teams that killed the trade.

I would take it exactly as serious as I would take any surprising trade rumor that seems one sided and comes from a guy who follows the team it is one sided for and doesn't have any audience (under 18k followers on twitter for instance).

Ehh, there have been a ton of rumors that the Jazz were trying to trade for Dejounte at the deadline before this.

And none that have implied that George was valued more than Murray by either team that i have seen. Which seemed to be the new insight we were being told to consider.

[ejftw]

For the CBA experts, can PG do an opt in and trade, then sign an extension with his new team immediately?

[jayjaysee]

For the CBA experts, can PG do an opt in and trade, then sign an extension with his new team immediately?

I’m not a CBA expert, but I believe most of the limitations on extend-and-trades went away with this CBA and he’d be eligible for a 3 year max added on to his current year.. The only lost money would be 5% raises instead of 8 and the million dollars or so next season.

(B)
If such Extension is signed on or after the first day of the 2024-25 Salary Cap Year, then the Extension may, in the first Salary Cap Year covered by the extended term, provide for a Salary, excluding Incentive Compensation, of up to the greater of:
(A) one hundred twenty percent (120%) of the Regular Salary in the last Salary Cap Year covered by the original term of the Contract; or (B) one hundred twenty percent (120% of the Estimated Average Player Salary for the Salary Cap Year in which the Extension is signed (or, if the Extension provides for any Incentive Compensation in the first Salary Cap
Article VII 253
(iv)
Year covered by the extended term, then one hundred twenty percent (120%) of the Estimated Average Player Salary for such Salary Cap Year less the amount of such Incentive Compensation). In the event that the last Salary Cap Year covered by the original term of the Contract provides for Incentive Compensation, the first Salary Cap Year covered by the extended term may provide for Likely Bonuses and Unlikely Bonuses of up to one hundred twenty percent (120%) of the Likely Bonuses and Unlikely Bonuses, respectively, in the last Salary Cap Year covered by the original term. Annual increases and decreases in Salary and Unlikely Bonuses shall be governed by Section 5(a)(4) above

But using these numbers and pretending I didn’t miss anything, the extend and trade could bring him up to a true max for 2025-2026 if the cap does raise 10%.. So it’s not quite the full “3%” per year loss compared to LAC giving him a full max.. he would make a million more that year, which would slightly impact the future losses..

[Scoot McGroot]

For the CBA experts, can PG do an opt in and trade, then sign an extension with his new team immediately?

I’m not a CBA expert, but I believe most of the limitations on extend-and-trades went away with this CBA and he’d be eligible for a 3 year max added on to his current year.. The only lost money would be 5% raises instead of 8 and the million dollars or so next season.

(B)
If such Extension is signed on or after the first day of the 2024-25 Salary Cap Year, then the Extension may, in the first Salary Cap Year covered by the extended term, provide for a Salary, excluding Incentive Compensation, of up to the greater of:
(A) one hundred twenty percent (120%) of the Regular Salary in the last Salary Cap Year covered by the original term of the Contract; or (B) one hundred twenty percent (120% of the Estimated Average Player Salary for the Salary Cap Year in which the Extension is signed (or, if the Extension provides for any Incentive Compensation in the first Salary Cap
Article VII 253
(iv)
Year covered by the extended term, then one hundred twenty percent (120%) of the Estimated Average Player Salary for such Salary Cap Year less the amount of such Incentive Compensation). In the event that the last Salary Cap Year covered by the original term of the Contract provides for Incentive Compensation, the first Salary Cap Year covered by the extended term may provide for Likely Bonuses and Unlikely Bonuses of up to one hundred twenty percent (120%) of the Likely Bonuses and Unlikely Bonuses, respectively, in the last Salary Cap Year covered by the original term. Annual increases and decreases in Salary and Unlikely Bonuses shall be governed by Section 5(a)(4) above

But using these numbers and pretending I didn’t miss anything, the extend and trade could bring him up to a true max for 2025-2026 if the cap does raise 10%.. So it’s not quite the full “3%” per year loss compared to LAC giving him a full max.. he would make a million more that year, which would slightly impact the future losses..

He’d be able to add 3 new years (since he’s have one under contract already, making a total of 4) and a raise in the first year of the added years of up to 20%, or his max, whichever is greater.

It’s a possibility since he’s already paid so highly, but I wonder if he would be willing to give up a potential 5th year?

[jbk1234]

For the CBA experts, can PG do an opt in and trade, then sign an extension with his new team immediately?

I’m not a CBA expert, but I believe most of the limitations on extend-and-trades went away with this CBA and he’d be eligible for a 3 year max added on to his current year.. The only lost money would be 5% raises instead of 8 and the million dollars or so next season.

(B)
If such Extension is signed on or after the first day of the 2024-25 Salary Cap Year, then the Extension may, in the first Salary Cap Year covered by the extended term, provide for a Salary, excluding Incentive Compensation, of up to the greater of:
(A) one hundred twenty percent (120%) of the Regular Salary in the last Salary Cap Year covered by the original term of the Contract; or (B) one hundred twenty percent (120% of the Estimated Average Player Salary for the Salary Cap Year in which the Extension is signed (or, if the Extension provides for any Incentive Compensation in the first Salary Cap
Article VII 253
(iv)
Year covered by the extended term, then one hundred twenty percent (120%) of the Estimated Average Player Salary for such Salary Cap Year less the amount of such Incentive Compensation). In the event that the last Salary Cap Year covered by the original term of the Contract provides for Incentive Compensation, the first Salary Cap Year covered by the extended term may provide for Likely Bonuses and Unlikely Bonuses of up to one hundred twenty percent (120%) of the Likely Bonuses and Unlikely Bonuses, respectively, in the last Salary Cap Year covered by the original term. Annual increases and decreases in Salary and Unlikely Bonuses shall be governed by Section 5(a)(4) above

But using these numbers and pretending I didn’t miss anything, the extend and trade could bring him up to a true max for 2025-2026 if the cap does raise 10%.. So it’s not quite the full “3%” per year loss compared to LAC giving him a full max.. he would make a million more that year, which would slightly impact the future losses..

He’d be able to add 3 new years (since he’s have one under contract already, making a total of 4) and a raise in the first year of the added years of up to 20%, or his max, whichever is greater.

It’s a possibility since he’s already paid so highly, but I wonder if he would be willing to give up a potential 5th year?

This presupposes a 5th year is out there for him.

[Colbinii]

I’m not a CBA expert, but I believe most of the limitations on extend-and-trades went away with this CBA and he’d be eligible for a 3 year max added on to his current year.. The only lost money would be 5% raises instead of 8 and the million dollars or so next season.



But using these numbers and pretending I didn’t miss anything, the extend and trade could bring him up to a true max for 2025-2026 if the cap does raise 10%.. So it’s not quite the full “3%” per year loss compared to LAC giving him a full max.. he would make a million more that year, which would slightly impact the future losses..

He’d be able to add 3 new years (since he’s have one under contract already, making a total of 4) and a raise in the first year of the added years of up to 20%, or his max, whichever is greater.

It’s a possibility since he’s already paid so highly, but I wonder if he would be willing to give up a potential 5th year?

This presupposes a 5th year is out there for him.

Which is why Scoot McGroot said a potential fifth year.