Instant Reaction: What Do The Knicks Do This Off-Season?

[Rockazoids]

How about Towns.

Randle + Bogdanovic + Picks for Towns.

Randle doesn’t work for Wolves, so a third team who can get Wolves what they need to tune of Randle.

I don't see NY giving up picks & Randle for KAT. In the CF he is 27.8 FG%, 13.6 3P% and he will make annual salary of $55M
for the next 4 years. You have the picks going the wrong way.

[Wolveswin]

How about Towns.

Randle + Bogdanovic + Picks for Towns.

Randle doesn’t work for Wolves, so a third team who can get Wolves what they need to tune of Randle.

I don't see NY giving up picks & Randle for KAT. In the CF he is 27.8 FG%, 13.6 3P% and he will make annual salary of $55M
for the next 4 years. You have the picks going the wrong way.

Ugh waste of time with you - but oh well - here we go. How is Randle doing in WCF? How did Towns do compared to Randle when Randle was actually playing in playoffs?

Towns trade value doesn’t get dinged for being 2nd best player on team to make WCF - that adds value.

Randle is older, expiring deal, not as good, and therefore Knicks add value. Easy.

[Rockazoids]

How about Towns.

Randle + Bogdanovic + Picks for Towns.

Randle doesn’t work for Wolves, so a third team who can get Wolves what they need to tune of Randle.

I don't see NY giving up picks & Randle for KAT. In the CF he is 27.8 FG%, 13.6 3P% and he will make annual salary of $55M
for the next 4 years. You have the picks going the wrong way.

Ugh waste of time with you - but oh well - here we go. How is Randle doing in WCF? How did Towns do compared to Randle when Randle was actually playing in playoffs?

Towns trade value doesn’t get dinged for being 2nd best player on team to make WCF - that adds value.

Randle is older, expiring deal, not as good, and therefore Knicks add value. Easy.

LOL Randle plays in the east
Randle carried a nobody NY team on 20/21 & was hurt in 22/23 PO
So KAT being the 2nd best player on the team is way they are getting their ass kick.
I see why you want to move his ass & start Naz. Also Randle is less than a year older than KAT & has a PO for 25/26
while KAT has to be paid $53M. Good luck moving that deal.

[Wolveswin]

I don't see NY giving up picks & Randle for KAT. In the CF he is 27.8 FG%, 13.6 3P% and he will make annual salary of $55M
for the next 4 years. You have the picks going the wrong way.

Ugh waste of time with you - but oh well - here we go. How is Randle doing in WCF? How did Towns do compared to Randle when Randle was actually playing in playoffs?

Towns trade value doesn’t get dinged for being 2nd best player on team to make WCF - that adds value.

Randle is older, expiring deal, not as good, and therefore Knicks add value. Easy.

LOL Randle plays in the east
Randle carried a nobody NY team on 20/21 & was hurt in 22/23 PO
So KAT being the 2nd best player on the team is way they are getting their ass kick.
I see why you want to move his ass & start Naz. Also Randle is less than a year older than KAT & has a PO for 25/26
while KAT has to be paid $53M. Good luck moving that deal.

East is easier than the West. Like much. Not sure what that comment was for.

Again, at least Wolves are in finals in much harder conference. Randle couldn’t get it done in easier East.

You do realize in 24/25, 25 contracts are over 40M before extensions and free agency. That number will be above 50 contracts in 25/26 season. What Towns is paid is the new norm. Using that number like a death blow response is laziness. Towns isn’t cheap. Either is Randle. Either is billionaires paying multimillionaires in NBA.

[lloydj]

Knicks Trade: Mitchell Robinson

OKC Trade: Josh Giddy

Brunson/Deuce/Giddy/?
Devi/Hart/Burke/Giddy
O.G./Hart/Giddy/Burke
Randall/O.G./Hart/Precious
IHart/ ? /Precious/Sims

[Rockazoids]

Ugh waste of time with you - but oh well - here we go. How is Randle doing in WCF? How did Towns do compared to Randle when Randle was actually playing in playoffs?

Towns trade value doesn’t get dinged for being 2nd best player on team to make WCF - that adds value.

Randle is older, expiring deal, not as good, and therefore Knicks add value. Easy.

LOL Randle plays in the east
Randle carried a nobody NY team on 20/21 & was hurt in 22/23 PO
So KAT being the 2nd best player on the team is way they are getting their ass kick.
I see why you want to move his ass & start Naz. Also Randle is less than a year older than KAT & has a PO for 25/26
while KAT has to be paid $53M. Good luck moving that deal.

East is easier than the West. Like much. Not sure what that comment was for.

Again, at least Wolves are in finals in much harder conference. Randle couldn’t get it done in easier East.

You do realize in 24/25, 25 contracts are over 40M before extensions and free agency. That number will be above 50 contracts in 25/26 season. What Towns is paid is the new norm. Using that number like a death blow response is laziness. Towns isn’t cheap. Either is Randle. Either is billionaires paying multimillionaires in NBA.

But the east is going to win it all and I rather pay Randle $32 M & keep my assets that have to pay KAT $49 M next year.
Again good luck moving his ass because trading him is going to take MIN taking back some ugly contracts.
It's not like I came on this board and said NYK should trade Randle & picks for him & his bloated ass deal.

[cgf]

Knicks Trade: Mitchell Robinson

OKC Trade: Josh Giddy

Brunson/Deuce/Giddy/?
Devi/Hart/Burke/Giddy
O.G./Hart/Giddy/Burke
Randall/O.G./Hart/Precious
IHart/ ? /Precious/Sims

Not a fan of Giddey’s game in general and though he’d help out non-Brunson creation, I feel like we could do a lot better…especially if it cost us Mitch.

[Wolveswin]

LOL Randle plays in the east
Randle carried a nobody NY team on 20/21 & was hurt in 22/23 PO
So KAT being the 2nd best player on the team is way they are getting their ass kick.
I see why you want to move his ass & start Naz. Also Randle is less than a year older than KAT & has a PO for 25/26
while KAT has to be paid $53M. Good luck moving that deal.

East is easier than the West. Like much. Not sure what that comment was for.

Again, at least Wolves are in finals in much harder conference. Randle couldn’t get it done in easier East.

You do realize in 24/25, 25 contracts are over 40M before extensions and free agency. That number will be above 50 contracts in 25/26 season. What Towns is paid is the new norm. Using that number like a death blow response is laziness. Towns isn’t cheap. Either is Randle. Either is billionaires paying multimillionaires in NBA.

But the east is going to win it all and I rather pay Randle $32 M & keep my assets that have to pay KAT $49 M next year.
Again good luck moving his ass because trading him is going to take MIN taking back some ugly contracts.
It's not like I came on this board and said NYK should trade Randle & picks for him & his bloated ass deal.

Even if Celtics win it all - as they sail through weak East - doesn’t mean East is tougher conference. Come on dude. Fairly common knowledge East is weaker conference.

Not even close really:

The West won 650 games this year, the East won 580 games. The 70 games difference is the largest since 2014-15.

Knicks are a great landing spot for Towns. He fits the roster construction, coach has already openly courted him, and Knicks have questionable contracts to trade in Randle (talented but bloated) and Bogdanovic (19M of dead weight).

Towns > Randle + Bogdanovic…question is by how many 1sts.

[Rockazoids]

East is easier than the West. Like much. Not sure what that comment was for.

Again, at least Wolves are in finals in much harder conference. Randle couldn’t get it done in easier East.

You do realize in 24/25, 25 contracts are over 40M before extensions and free agency. That number will be above 50 contracts in 25/26 season. What Towns is paid is the new norm. Using that number like a death blow response is laziness. Towns isn’t cheap. Either is Randle. Either is billionaires paying multimillionaires in NBA.

But the east is going to win it all and I rather pay Randle $32 M & keep my assets that have to pay KAT $49 M next year.
Again good luck moving his ass because trading him is going to take MIN taking back some ugly contracts.
It's not like I came on this board and said NYK should trade Randle & picks for him & his bloated ass deal.

Even if Celtics win it all - as they sail through weak East - doesn’t mean East is tougher conference. Come on dude. Fairly common knowledge East is weaker conference.

Not even close really:

The West won 650 games this year, the East won 580 games. The 70 games difference is the largest since 2014-15.

Knicks are a great landing spot for Towns. He fits the roster construction, coach has already openly courted him, and Knicks have questionable contracts to trade in Randle (talented but bloated) and Bogdanovic (19M of dead weight).

Towns > Randle + Bogdanovic…question is by how many 1sts.

Randle put up 25/9/5 & will be making $32 M and you call it bloated ,but KAT put up 22/8/3 &will be making $49 M and
Bogdanovic is on a TO. That money can go to Hartenstein. So it's Randle, Hartenstein & picks for KAT.
See how silly that sound?

[Knickfan1982]

They gotta go in for Markannen


To OKC

Robinson
Dallas 1st



To Utah
Randle
#13
2024 NY 1st
2026 New York 1st
2025 Milwaukee 1st
2026 Washington 1st


To New York

Lauri

Replace Utah with Denver and Lauri for Nicola Jokic and that offer starts to make more sense even if its not close. Lauri ain't worth anywhere close to that even if he weren't an expiring deal. But considering he is....he's worth a fraction of this.

[Wolveswin]

But the east is going to win it all and I rather pay Randle $32 M & keep my assets that have to pay KAT $49 M next year.
Again good luck moving his ass because trading him is going to take MIN taking back some ugly contracts.
It's not like I came on this board and said NYK should trade Randle & picks for him & his bloated ass deal.

Even if Celtics win it all - as they sail through weak East - doesn’t mean East is tougher conference. Come on dude. Fairly common knowledge East is weaker conference.

Not even close really:

The West won 650 games this year, the East won 580 games. The 70 games difference is the largest since 2014-15.

Knicks are a great landing spot for Towns. He fits the roster construction, coach has already openly courted him, and Knicks have questionable contracts to trade in Randle (talented but bloated) and Bogdanovic (19M of dead weight).

Towns > Randle + Bogdanovic…question is by how many 1sts.

Randle put up 25/9/5 & will be making $32 M and you call it bloated ,but KAT put up 22/8/3 &will be making $49 M and
Bogdanovic is on a TO. That money can go to Hartenstein. So it's Randle, Hartenstein & picks for KAT.
See how silly that sound?

Towns put up numbers on a better team in a harder conference. And who said Towns contract is not bloated? Not me. Read back, I said he was expensive. Hence trading expensive Towns for expensive Randle. Plus…

Bogdanovic is nonguaranteed- not a TO. Knicks pay 2M for him to walk and to not have his salary as filler or they keep him for just that (hence the trade you are objecting to).

[R-DAWG]

They gotta go in for Markannen


To OKC

Robinson
Dallas 1st



To Utah
Randle
#13
2024 NY 1st
2026 New York 1st
2025 Milwaukee 1st
2026 Washington 1st


To New York

Lauri

I love the concept of Robinson + the Dal 1st (#24) for Pick #12 (I assume you meant the pick OKC has at #12 not #13 which is SAC's pick). Obviously, NY would need to feel confident that I-Hart is coming back, but I peg Mitch's value as similar to what WAS got for Daniel Gafford at the deadline (late 1st rd pick) and given the general feel about this draft the value feels fair.

NY would use pick #12 to either grab a 3 and D wing of the future - my target here is Ja'Kobe Walter - who would step in right away as a 3 and D wing with the upside of becoming a #3 scorer down the road. Alternatively, NY could use the pick to nab a combo guard like Stephen Castle if he were to fall. In either case, fill a rotation need and add upside to the roster.

With the 25th pick - NY could draft a backup C to replace Mitch. This would be an ideal draft outcome for NY

Brunson/Walter/Anunoby/Randle/Hartenstein
McBride/DDV/Hart/Bogdonovic/Rookie Backup C (likely brining Precious back on a 1 year deal for depth)

My thinking here is the Knicks need to add a piece that can contribute right away at a position of need - a guard to pair with McBride off the bench to provide additional scoring and playmaking. This can be accomplished by drafting a 3 and D wing and shifting DDV to the bench or by drafting a combo guard. I would not go project here like a Cody Williams. Then replacing Mitch with a rookie scale C while having Precious on a 1 year deal adds some long term cost control to the roster.

I consider this running it back while improving in the margins short term, but better positioning the team long term with some cost controlled, upside pieces.

[Rockazoids]

They gotta go in for Markannen


To OKC

Robinson
Dallas 1st



To Utah
Randle
#13
2024 NY 1st
2026 New York 1st
2025 Milwaukee 1st
2026 Washington 1st


To New York

Lauri

I love the concept of Robinson + the Dal 1st (#24) for Pick #12 (I assume you meant the pick OKC has at #12 not #13 which is SAC's pick). Obviously, NY would need to feel confident that I-Hart is coming back, but I peg Mitch's value as similar to what WAS got for Daniel Gafford at the deadline (late 1st rd pick) and given the general feel about this draft the value feels fair.

NY would use pick #12 to either grab a 3 and D wing of the future - my target here is Ja'Kobe Walter - who would step in right away as a 3 and D wing with the upside of becoming a #3 scorer down the road. Alternatively, NY could use the pick to nab a combo guard like Stephen Castle if he were to fall. In either case, fill a rotation need and add upside to the roster.

With the 25th pick - NY could draft a backup C to replace Mitch. This would be an ideal draft outcome for NY

Brunson/Walter/Anunoby/Randle/Hartenstein
McBride/DDV/Hart/Bogdonovic/Rookie Backup C (likely brining Precious back on a 1 year deal for depth)

My thinking here is the Knicks need to add a piece that can contribute right away at a position of need - a guard to pair with McBride off the bench to provide additional scoring and playmaking. This can be accomplished by drafting a 3 and D wing and shifting DDV to the bench or by drafting a combo guard. I would not go project here like a Cody Williams. Then replacing Mitch with a rookie scale C while having Precious on a 1 year deal adds some long term cost control to the roster.

I consider this running it back while improving in the margins short term, but better positioning the team long term with some cost controlled, upside pieces.

You read this wrong.
The trade has NY trading
Randle
Robinson
NY 24 1st
NY 26 1st
DAL 24 1st (from NY)
MIL 25 1st (from NY)
WASH 26 1st (from NY)

NY Receive
Lauri

This is some Bat S**t crazy trade for NY

[WargamesX]

They gotta go in for Markannen


To OKC

Robinson
Dallas 1st



To Utah
Randle
#13
2024 NY 1st
2026 New York 1st
2025 Milwaukee 1st
2026 Washington 1st


To New York

Lauri

I love the concept of Robinson + the Dal 1st (#24) for Pick #12 (I assume you meant the pick OKC has at #12 not #13 which is SAC's pick). Obviously, NY would need to feel confident that I-Hart is coming back, but I peg Mitch's value as similar to what WAS got for Daniel Gafford at the deadline (late 1st rd pick) and given the general feel about this draft the value feels fair.

NY would use pick #12 to either grab a 3 and D wing of the future - my target here is Ja'Kobe Walter - who would step in right away as a 3 and D wing with the upside of becoming a #3 scorer down the road. Alternatively, NY could use the pick to nab a combo guard like Stephen Castle if he were to fall. In either case, fill a rotation need and add upside to the roster.

With the 25th pick - NY could draft a backup C to replace Mitch. This would be an ideal draft outcome for NY

Brunson/Walter/Anunoby/Randle/Hartenstein
McBride/DDV/Hart/Bogdonovic/Rookie Backup C (likely brining Precious back on a 1 year deal for depth)

My thinking here is the Knicks need to add a piece that can contribute right away at a position of need - a guard to pair with McBride off the bench to provide additional scoring and playmaking. This can be accomplished by drafting a 3 and D wing and shifting DDV to the bench or by drafting a combo guard. I would not go project here like a Cody Williams. Then replacing Mitch with a rookie scale C while having Precious on a 1 year deal adds some long term cost control to the roster.

I consider this running it back while improving in the margins short term, but better positioning the team long term with some cost controlled, upside pieces.

You read this wrong.
The trade has NY trading
Randle
Robinson
NY 24 1st
NY 26 1st
DAL 24 1st (from NY)
MIL 25 1st (from NY)
WASH 26 1st (from NY)

NY Receive
Lauri

This is some Bat S**t crazy trade for NY

The funny thing is Ainge is likely to say “give me more”

[cgf]

East is easier than the West. Like much. Not sure what that comment was for.

Again, at least Wolves are in finals in much harder conference. Randle couldn’t get it done in easier East.

You do realize in 24/25, 25 contracts are over 40M before extensions and free agency. That number will be above 50 contracts in 25/26 season. What Towns is paid is the new norm. Using that number like a death blow response is laziness. Towns isn’t cheap. Either is Randle. Either is billionaires paying multimillionaires in NBA.

But the east is going to win it all and I rather pay Randle $32 M & keep my assets that have to pay KAT $49 M next year.
Again good luck moving his ass because trading him is going to take MIN taking back some ugly contracts.
It's not like I came on this board and said NYK should trade Randle & picks for him & his bloated ass deal.

Even if Celtics win it all - as they sail through weak East - doesn’t mean East is tougher conference. Come on dude. Fairly common knowledge East is weaker conference.

Not even close really:

The West won 650 games this year, the East won 580 games. The 70 games difference is the largest since 2014-15.

Knicks are a great landing spot for Towns. He fits the roster construction, coach has already openly courted him, and Knicks have questionable contracts to trade in Randle (talented but bloated) and Bogdanovic (19M of dead weight).

Towns > Randle + Bogdanovic…question is by how many 1sts.

Randle’s contract has been a steal for us

Towns isn’t as bad a fit for us as Lauri, but you’re still making our non-Brunson playmaking problem worse…while eating up an extra salary slot.

The answer is way more picks than the Knicks should even consider paying. Towns just isn’t the guy to blow our wad for.

Keep Randle and upgrade on Bogdanovic if this is the best star our FO can find. No need to start rushing now. This was built gradually & patiently, so stay the course.

[R-DAWG]

I love the concept of Robinson + the Dal 1st (#24) for Pick #12 (I assume you meant the pick OKC has at #12 not #13 which is SAC's pick). Obviously, NY would need to feel confident that I-Hart is coming back, but I peg Mitch's value as similar to what WAS got for Daniel Gafford at the deadline (late 1st rd pick) and given the general feel about this draft the value feels fair.

NY would use pick #12 to either grab a 3 and D wing of the future - my target here is Ja'Kobe Walter - who would step in right away as a 3 and D wing with the upside of becoming a #3 scorer down the road. Alternatively, NY could use the pick to nab a combo guard like Stephen Castle if he were to fall. In either case, fill a rotation need and add upside to the roster.

With the 25th pick - NY could draft a backup C to replace Mitch. This would be an ideal draft outcome for NY

Brunson/Walter/Anunoby/Randle/Hartenstein
McBride/DDV/Hart/Bogdonovic/Rookie Backup C (likely brining Precious back on a 1 year deal for depth)

My thinking here is the Knicks need to add a piece that can contribute right away at a position of need - a guard to pair with McBride off the bench to provide additional scoring and playmaking. This can be accomplished by drafting a 3 and D wing and shifting DDV to the bench or by drafting a combo guard. I would not go project here like a Cody Williams. Then replacing Mitch with a rookie scale C while having Precious on a 1 year deal adds some long term cost control to the roster.

I consider this running it back while improving in the margins short term, but better positioning the team long term with some cost controlled, upside pieces.

You read this wrong.
The trade has NY trading
Randle
Robinson
NY 24 1st
NY 26 1st
DAL 24 1st (from NY)
MIL 25 1st (from NY)
WASH 26 1st (from NY)

NY Receive
Lauri

This is some Bat S**t crazy trade for NY

The funny thing is Ainge is likely to say “give me more”

I didn't read it wrong. OKC is trading Pick #12 for Mitchell Robinson and Pick #24 (Dallas 1st).

I'm taking the Utah/Lauri part out and just doing that trade between NY and OKC