Dejounte Murray to ORL

[Whole Truth]

Sure, if i could keep WCJ and replace him with a 1st I would prefer that.

How would you fill 25-30m in salary without including him ?

[Whole Truth]

I'd do CJ for for one of Isaac or Carter, expiring/TPE .

[orlando_joe]

Sure, if i could keep WCJ and replace him with a 1st I would prefer that.

How would you fill 25-30m in salary without including him ?

magic will have like 40 mill in cap space in less then a month

[orlando_joe]

I'd do CJ for for one of Isaac or Carter, expiring/TPE .

magic looking for younger 2-way guard

[orlando_joe]

Sure, if i could keep WCJ and replace him with a 1st I would prefer that.

Here's where I'm at now

Murray for Isaac / Black / #18 / 2025 DEN FRP maybe a late ORL 2027 FRP?

wow thats more then hawks paid...magic wont give that or i don not see even really interested with his immature character flaws
magic tend to shy away from that

[tiderulz]

I'd do CJ for for one of Isaac or Carter, expiring/TPE .

magic looking for younger 2-way guard

dont kid yourself. if we could get CJ for just Carter, the front office would do it in a heartbeat

[Whole Truth]

I'd do CJ for for one of Isaac or Carter, expiring/TPE .

magic looking for younger 2-way guard

dont kid yourself. if we could get CJ for just Carter, the front office would do it in a heartbeat

I was thinking Magic are a better defensive team than NO's & know you are in need of spacing & CJ is coming off his best shooting season, 42% on 8 APG. He adjusted his shot selection to better fit with Zion, spacing the floor & was elite at it.

Problem with CJ is he's not a good defensive fit with ZIon. Despite a poster showing the 113 defensive rating. They played a lot of their minutes together off the bench.

[sChOlaRlY_Magi]

Be happy to keep WCJ, but he's the most attractive win-now young asset. They could move Capela (or ORL takes him and is salary back as a sweetener). WCJ could play next to or instead of Okongwu (or Carr?).

ORL's got picks to offer, but also could offer cap space by taking back an overpay like Hunter too. This could be big if ATL has some other deal in the works.

WCJ, Cole Anthony, ORL 25, DEN 25, ORL 27 for Capela and Murray

or, simply
ORL 25, DEN 25, Cole for Murray & Hunter (straight into cap space)

I have seen much worse offers than that one and would have to really consider it. Whats the protections like on those picks?

Misquoted

[Skybox]

Be happy to keep WCJ, but he's the most attractive win-now young asset. They could move Capela (or ORL takes him and is salary back as a sweetener). WCJ could play next to or instead of Okongwu (or Carr?).

ORL's got picks to offer, but also could offer cap space by taking back an overpay like Hunter too. This could be big if ATL has some other deal in the works.

WCJ, Cole Anthony, ORL 25, DEN 25, ORL 27 for Capela and Murray

or, simply
ORL 25, DEN 25, Cole for Murray & Hunter (straight into cap space)

I have seen much worse offers than that one and would have to really consider it. Whats the protections like on those picks?

I'm willing to bet you heard no response back then.

You don't have to look to hard to see the response

[sChOlaRlY_Magi]

I’ve said it before but Grizz offer Kennard/25 1st for WCJ

Lol

I meant to quote this, but apparently I quoted the other.

Kind of took the fun out of it.

Hoisted by my own petard situation.

[Whole Truth]

I'd give up a FRP to make it (Isaac & expiring value/TPE) for (CJ, FRP)

[AaronB]

The problem for the Magic is that of all the players that have been mentioned as a starting guard, they all have big warts,

Murray is a below-average 3-point shooter. Good for him that he has improved his shot for each of the last 4 years. It has improved to where it is still below average for a starting guard.

Monk has a long history of being well below average as an NBA player, forget just being a starter.

I could go on, but one wonders if the Magic don't just roll the dice with what they have and depend on internal improvement.

[Ducklett]

I’ve said it before but Grizz offer Kennard/25 1st for WCJ

Lol

I meant to quote this, but apparently I quoted the other.

Kind of took the fun out of it.

Hoisted by my own petard situation.

This website on phones can be a hot mess so I wouldn't hoist yourself too high.

I am not sure I trade for Murray in any iteration of this deal if Black is involved. But some of the offers here seem like they are worth more than what ATL paid for him and surely his value has dropped since that trade.

[QMemphis]

I’ve said it before but Grizz offer Kennard/25 1st for WCJ

Lol

I meant to quote this, but apparently I quoted the other.

Kind of took the fun out of it.

Hoisted by my own petard situation.

I’m not sure what your point is

[sChOlaRlY_Magi]

I’ve said it before but Grizz offer Kennard/25 1st for WCJ

Lol

I meant to quote this, but apparently I quoted the other.

Kind of took the fun out of it.

Hoisted by my own petard situation.

I’m not sure what your point is

That Kennard and a late first isn't worth considering letting WCJ go. The Magic like Carter, a lot, and would only give him up this year for an amazing guard and the hopes that we can sign Claxton or Hartenstein.

This doesn't move the needle enough, at least in comparison to what else is out there. That's my opinion, but I'd still bet most Magic fans here would say "PASS" to that offer. If they responded at all.

[QMemphis]

Lol

I meant to quote this, but apparently I quoted the other.

Kind of took the fun out of it.

Hoisted by my own petard situation.

I’m not sure what your point is

That Kennard and a late first isn't worth considering letting WCJ go. The Magic like Carter, a lot, and would only give him up this year for an amazing guard and the hopes that we can sign Claxton or Hartenstein.

This doesn't move the needle enough, at least in comparison to what else is out there. That's my opinion, but I'd still bet most Magic fans here would say "PASS" to that offer. If they responded at all.

That offer was in regards to a 3 team deal. If I’m dealing with the Magic only Kennard/#9 for WCJ/#18

[Residual-Heat]

Sure, if i could keep WCJ and replace him with a 1st I would prefer that.

Here's where I'm at now

Murray for Isaac / Black / #18 / 2025 DEN FRP maybe a late ORL 2027 FRP?

Id pass on that. Would do 3 1sts, or max WCJ+ 2 1sts.

I do agree with Orlando_joe though in that I think its unlikely the Magic trade for Murray due to character. I think its best if he goes a team with vets, like the Heat or Lakers. Its unfortunate because I do like the fit on the court for the Magic.

[Residual-Heat]

I'd do CJ for for one of Isaac or Carter, expiring/TPE .

I wouldnt do that, but probably would trade the #18 pick.

[Nyce_1]

I’m not sure what your point is

That Kennard and a late first isn't worth considering letting WCJ go. The Magic like Carter, a lot, and would only give him up this year for an amazing guard and the hopes that we can sign Claxton or Hartenstein.

This doesn't move the needle enough, at least in comparison to what else is out there. That's my opinion, but I'd still bet most Magic fans here would say "PASS" to that offer. If they responded at all.

That offer was in regards to a 3 team deal. If I’m dealing with the Magic only Kennard/#9 for WCJ/#18

I'd consider this if Orl could re-route Luke & #9 to ATL, along with additional Orl stuff, for Trae, and secure the signing of Hartenstein.

[One_and_Done]

Magic aren't desperate enough. Hawks will find a seedier suitor elsewhere.