You are the GM of the Orlando Magic, what would you do this offseason?

[Jadoogar]

Offer Denver Suggs, Cole and picks for Murray. The Nuggets have a MAJOR cap crunch coming and will need relief. This trade gets them below the 2nd apron and allow them to make moves.

Murray would fit in great next to Franz and Paolo.

That is a serious overpay for Murray.

Wait, you think that's too much for Jamal Murray? The guy who in a proven playoff killer and already shown he can be the second best player on a championship team? He's also way more valuable to the Nuggets as they are a title contender. They wouldn't trade him for Suggs and some picks

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Step 1 decline Ingles deal, this should be obvious. Look to decline Isaac & Wagner but bring them back on multi year deals free up a bit of cap. Isaac 3/30M, Wagner 3/12M.

I am then working the back pages to see if Claxton or Hartenstein are interested in joining the Magic. If I get a yes then I am working to move WCJ + Cole + Denver pick for a vet wing. Should then have enough money to snag Tyus Jones who isn't the flashiest player but will set the table for Orlando, something that Paolo has asked for. Take whatever is left in FA and lock up Melton or Dinwiddie.

At 18 draft one of : Da Silva, Carrington, George

Tyus/AB
Suggs/Melton/Jett
Franz/18th pick or vet wing
Paolo/Isaac
Claxton/Mo Wagner

[Ell Curry]

This is the team I think should bite the bullet and take on Lavine's contract, assuming it costs them not so much. Keep developing Black and Suggs at guard and in 2 years, can always trade an expiring Lavine + picks if a better wing or guard is available.

[JRoy]

Offer Denver Suggs, Cole and picks for Murray. The Nuggets have a MAJOR cap crunch coming and will need relief. This trade gets them below the 2nd apron and allow them to make moves.

Murray would fit in great next to Franz and Paolo.

That is a serious overpay for Murray.

Wait, you think that's too much for Jamal Murray? The guy who in a proven playoff killer and already shown he can be the second best player on a championship team? He's also way more valuable to the Nuggets as they are a title contender. They wouldn't trade him for Suggs and some picks

Murray has major injury issues and inconsistency.

[JRoy]

That is a serious overpay for Murray.

Murray is exactly what they need as a creator and scorer from the perimeter. With Issac they have defenders that can cover for him and quite frankly, I think that Black **should** be a good defender to replace the Suggs role. He has all the tools.

Swap Black in for Suggs then...Suggs is about to get a big extension - which diminishes the trade value/benefit, in DEN's situation. Black is 6'7 and smart...he'd do very well in DEN, imo.

That looks like a great deal for both sides to me.

[JRoy]

Swap Black in for Suggs then...Suggs is about to get a big extension - which diminishes the trade value/benefit, in DEN's situation. Black is 6'7 and smart...he'd do very well in DEN, imo.

Then Denver has limited scoring from their guard spots. Suggs provides scoring and defense which is why he is being asked for. To this point, Black has not shown NBA scoring ability though he was drafted as a potential defensive stud. Thus Denver's motivation to do this disappears.

Who is more willing to take the chance that Black's offense develops, Denver or Orlando?

Financially ORL is gonna have to pay both Paulo and Franz and the theoretical Murray deal. Adding Suggs is alot to ask. So they actually could use the savings from a rookie Black more than Denver.

That’s long term thinking. Assuming AB pans out that makes sense.

[orlando_joe]

Step 1 decline Ingles deal, this should be obvious. Look to decline Isaac & Wagner but bring them back on multi year deals free up a bit of cap. Isaac 3/30M, Wagner 3/12M.

I am then working the back pages to see if Claxton or Hartenstein are interested in joining the Magic. If I get a yes then I am working to move WCJ + Cole + Denver pick for a vet wing. Should then have enough money to snag Tyus Jones who isn't the flashiest player but will set the table for Orlando, something that Paolo has asked for. Take whatever is left in FA and lock up Melton or Dinwiddie.

At 18 draft one of : Da Silva, Carrington, George

Tyus/AB
Suggs/Melton/Jett
Franz/18th pick or vet wing
Paolo/Isaac
Claxton/Mo Wagner

your not getting mo and ji to sign for 14 mill between them this summer come on...both can get double that i think or very close to it
for sure magic would loose them both with those offers and would not blame them at all
not overpaying to get claxton defense not the problem...i would draft da silva first option unless someone drops

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Step 1 decline Ingles deal, this should be obvious. Look to decline Isaac & Wagner but bring them back on multi year deals free up a bit of cap. Isaac 3/30M, Wagner 3/12M.

I am then working the back pages to see if Claxton or Hartenstein are interested in joining the Magic. If I get a yes then I am working to move WCJ + Cole + Denver pick for a vet wing. Should then have enough money to snag Tyus Jones who isn't the flashiest player but will set the table for Orlando, something that Paolo has asked for. Take whatever is left in FA and lock up Melton or Dinwiddie.

At 18 draft one of : Da Silva, Carrington, George

Tyus/AB
Suggs/Melton/Jett
Franz/18th pick or vet wing
Paolo/Isaac
Claxton/Mo Wagner

your not getting mo and ji to sign for 14 mill between them this summer come on...both can get double that i think or very close to it
for sure magic would loose them both with those offers and would not blame them at all
not overpaying to get claxton defense not the problem...i would draft da silva first option unless someone drops

Isaac I would go up a bit probably 45M but dude is still being coddled and honestly didn't have a big effect in the playoffs. If Wagner doesn't take then then see what Goga wants. I'd imagine Wagner would rather take the years vs more money to stay with his brother and in a role he knows.

[Ducklett]

This is the team I think should bite the bullet and take on Lavine's contract, assuming it costs them not so much. Keep developing Black and Suggs at guard and in 2 years, can always trade an expiring Lavine + picks if a better wing or guard is available.

How many firsts are the Magic getting to eat one of the worst contracts in the league?

[Jadoogar]

That is a serious overpay for Murray.

Wait, you think that's too much for Jamal Murray? The guy who in a proven playoff killer and already shown he can be the second best player on a championship team? He's also way more valuable to the Nuggets as they are a title contender. They wouldn't trade him for Suggs and some picks

Murray has major injury issues and inconsistency.

And the Nuggets don't win the title without him, no chance they trade him for a prospect.

[Texas Chuck]

Step 1 decline Ingles deal, this should be obvious. Look to decline Isaac & Wagner but bring them back on multi year deals free up a bit of cap. Isaac 3/30M, Wagner 3/12M.

I am then working the back pages to see if Claxton or Hartenstein are interested in joining the Magic. If I get a yes then I am working to move WCJ + Cole + Denver pick for a vet wing. Should then have enough money to snag Tyus Jones who isn't the flashiest player but will set the table for Orlando, something that Paolo has asked for. Take whatever is left in FA and lock up Melton or Dinwiddie.

At 18 draft one of : Da Silva, Carrington, George

Tyus/AB
Suggs/Melton/Jett
Franz/18th pick or vet wing
Paolo/Isaac
Claxton/Mo Wagner

Feels conservative, but well thought out and pretty reasonable. Except for your re-negotiations. I can't see JI opting out just to guarantee $12.5M over 2 years though. I think you'd have to go higher because the potential downside for him isn't that bad compared to what he could be giving up if he could have a healthy season. And if he can't Orlando probably shouldn't even do your 3/$30M. And of course Wagner isn't even getting min money for giving up $4M for you. Just impossible he does that.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Step 1 decline Ingles deal, this should be obvious. Look to decline Isaac & Wagner but bring them back on multi year deals free up a bit of cap. Isaac 3/30M, Wagner 3/12M.

I am then working the back pages to see if Claxton or Hartenstein are interested in joining the Magic. If I get a yes then I am working to move WCJ + Cole + Denver pick for a vet wing. Should then have enough money to snag Tyus Jones who isn't the flashiest player but will set the table for Orlando, something that Paolo has asked for. Take whatever is left in FA and lock up Melton or Dinwiddie.

At 18 draft one of : Da Silva, Carrington, George

Tyus/AB
Suggs/Melton/Jett
Franz/18th pick or vet wing
Paolo/Isaac
Claxton/Mo Wagner

Feels conservative, but well thought out and pretty reasonable. Except for your re-negotiations. I can't see JI opting out just to guarantee $12.5M over 2 years though. I think you'd have to go higher because the potential downside for him isn't that bad compared to what he could be giving up if he could have a healthy season. And if he can't Orlando probably shouldn't even do your 3/$30M. And of course Wagner isn't even getting min money for giving up $4M for you. Just impossible he does that.

yeah didn't really look at min numbers so was a 1/2 ass attempt but the vision is there. I'd go 3/45M for Isaac with last year's option and if he can get through a season or two without being coddled/injured then lock him bigger money long-term. Wagner then say 3 years 25M ( think that's close to MLE) he swaps out 4M for 2 more years and he gets to stay with his brother & in a role he knows and plays well in.

[Astaluego]

If you send Cole and discount his salary, I would say that Lavine at +-27 million is reasonable, I think people forget that he is a very good player (when he plays) and it seems that he is healthy now... then I would make a trade for Kessler For some reason (don't ask me why) Jazz doesn't play it much... a couple of FRPs do? Maybe something around WCJ?

Suggs/Black
Lavine/Harris
Wagner/Howard
Banchelo/Issak
Kessler/Mo

[Residual-Heat]

Im building a defensive juggernaut. Sign Claxton, and trade WCJ+2 1sts for Dejounte Murray. The shooting will take care of itself. Franz just needs to go back to 35+% as he has shown he can do. Paolo and Suggs will need to continue to improve.
D.Murray-Cole
Suggs-Black-Howard
Franz-Houstan
Paolo-Isaac
Claxton-Mo

Thats an improved on offense as well but the defense could be really special, especially if Isaac can give us 20-25 mpg.

LOOOOVE it, but I don't know how much ATL values WCJ with Capela, Okongwu, and #1 likely being Sarr. WCJ could play with any of them, at PF...he'd be great alongside Sarr if they relocated Capela. I don't think 2 (late) frps do it, maybe 3 or Howard or Black in the mix. Noone, including me, wants to sacrifice Black - but win-now teams might see him as the defense-now, upside later appealing guy.

I'd be a little sad, but would pull the trigger on WCJ, Black, ORL frp, DEN frp for Murray - maybe get them to throw in AJ Griffin.
You are absolutely right on about the kind of defense ORL could have with Claxton AND Murray added to an already tough D. Suggs and Murray punishing at the POA, with Claxton backing up their gambles Nasty...and then Isaac, who's probably the best of them.

i wouldnt give up Black. The package I posted is the max I would personally offer. If that seems low its because im worried about the possibility that Murray might not able to get along with everyone. Should that happen, I would want to be able to cut my losses with minimal damage.

[Slim Charless]

Then Denver has limited scoring from their guard spots. Suggs provides scoring and defense which is why he is being asked for. To this point, Black has not shown NBA scoring ability though he was drafted as a potential defensive stud. Thus Denver's motivation to do this disappears.

Who is more willing to take the chance that Black's offense develops, Denver or Orlando?

Financially ORL is gonna have to pay both Paulo and Franz and the theoretical Murray deal. Adding Suggs is alot to ask. So they actually could use the savings from a rookie Black more than Denver.

That’s long term thinking. Assuming AB pans out that makes sense.

It's what both team should strongly consider. Black will slot right in at the SG defensive slot vacated by Suggs and would compliment Murray well. Nuggets get a massive savings in cap and an upgrade in defense. They are paying MPJ a ton....it's time for him to earn it and take over the secondary scorer option on Denver.

[Nyce_1]

At 18 draft one of : Da Silva, Carrington, George

Sir, you know ball.

[giberish]

Obviously the big issue is getting a lead guard. Murray (from Atl) is probably the best option but wouldn't be that cheap. I would have Monk as a possibility and should hold up as a score-first 4th or 5th best player. I don't like Simons - the same weaknesses as Monk but higher salary and Portland would expect assets back. Tyus Jones is too cautious/low usage to be a good option.

Figure you keep Black or Anthony as a backup PG. Black being the clear preference but to get a good player in trade he might need to be dealt, at which point you keep Anthony as he's still have a role. I also figure the team needs a solid backup SG/SF addition (I know the plan is for Howard to develop into this role but I'm not a believer). Heild would make a lot of sense for that role.

Front-court keep Isaac, have a playable 3rd center and an extra forward.

[Ell Curry]

This is the team I think should bite the bullet and take on Lavine's contract, assuming it costs them not so much. Keep developing Black and Suggs at guard and in 2 years, can always trade an expiring Lavine + picks if a better wing or guard is available.

How many firsts are the Magic getting to eat one of the worst contracts in the league?

Probably none. Let's say you sign Monk for 23M a year, is Monk and Anthony at 42M a year better than Lavine for 2-3M more? I'd say nah.

Could be a bit like the Porzingis deal in that it's getting an all-star at an incredibly low price and keeps Orlando really big with Suggs/Black/Lavine being really big at guard, Wagner and Banchero at forward, and you keep the future picks available to ideally secure the right center to complete your top 6/7 (with presumably some combo of Mo Wagner, Isaac and whoever as the backup frontcourt guys).

Maybe something like:

Chicago: Jett Howard, Team X forward
Orlando: Lavine
Team X: Anthony, ORL 2nds, Chicago 2nds,

as a blueprint