You are the Nets GM you are doing this offseason..

[supertruck97]

Sure but the Grizzlies will leapfrog the Rockets and it will be even harder to make the play in than last year. “And god forbid” Wemby puts it together.

See how we can do this all night.

The reality is the Rockets had an 80% chance at getting #8, 9 or 10 and that Brooklyn will be actively trying to improve on their 32 wins, including going after any star player that becomes available.

Don’t let the lottery luck get to your head.

It has nothing to do with lottery luck.

I legitimately think the Nets will be worse next year.

I think that’s unlikely unless they choose to blow it up.

But right now, all signs point towards the Nets making efforts to improve, including pursuing whatever star inevitably becomes available between now and next year’s trade deadline.

Didn't they try to do that last offseason too and ended up in the Lottery?

EVERY team looks to improve in the offseason, so it's not exactly a differentiator for the Nets to say they want to get better. And continually banking that SOME star will come available is not a great bet to take.

[K_chile22]

My team will get better and yours won't, sorry, I don't make the rules

[JKiddy]

K chile I want whatever you are on... and NOW! Send some my way!

[TheBrooklynKidd]

It has nothing to do with lottery luck.

I legitimately think the Nets will be worse next year.

I think that’s unlikely unless they choose to blow it up.

But right now, all signs point towards the Nets making efforts to improve, including pursuing whatever star inevitably becomes available between now and next year’s trade deadline.

Didn't they try to do that last offseason too and ended up in the Lottery?

EVERY team looks to improve in the offseason, so it's not exactly a differentiator for the Nets to say they want to get better. And continually banking that SOME star will come available is not a great bet to take.

You misunderstand my point.

Last season was pretty much a worst case for Brooklyn yet they still won 32 games. They are going to look to improve on that and most likely will.

The pick had a 80% chance of being #8 or worse. Rockets fans letting lottery luck get to their heads and distort their valuation.

[penbeast0]

Didn't they try to do that last offseason too and ended up in the Lottery?

EVERY team looks to improve in the offseason, so it's not exactly a differentiator for the Nets to say they want to get better. And continually banking that SOME star will come available is not a great bet to take.

EVERY team looks to improve in the offseason . . . except the Wizards. We try to get worse and collect draft choices.

[TheBrooklynKidd]

My team will get better and yours won't, sorry, I don't make the rules

Not what I said. I was talking about the competition.

It’s going to be harder for the Rockets to make the play-in next year with the Grizzlies and to a lesser extent the Spurs leapfrogging them.

For the Nets it may even be easier with Chicago and Atlanta looking to move key contributors.

So it’s very possible that the swap is only 1 or 2 draft slots or doesn’t happen at all.

[supertruck97]

I think that’s unlikely unless they choose to blow it up.

But right now, all signs point towards the Nets making efforts to improve, including pursuing whatever star inevitably becomes available between now and next year’s trade deadline.

Didn't they try to do that last offseason too and ended up in the Lottery?

EVERY team looks to improve in the offseason, so it's not exactly a differentiator for the Nets to say they want to get better. And continually banking that SOME star will come available is not a great bet to take.

You misunderstand my point.

Last season was pretty much a worst case for Brooklyn yet they still won 32 games. They are going to look to improve on that and most likely will.

The pick had a 80% chance of being #8 or worse. Rockets fans letting lottery luck get to their heads and distort their valuation.

Regardless of the chances, it was a lottery Pick. And the rockets don't have control of their own pick in 2025. So, the ability of the worst case scenario where OKC swaps the Rockets #11 pick for something in the 20's, the ability to flip straight back to somewhere in the lottery has massive value.

You say last season was the worst case scenario, but your best player started and played in all 82 games. That is extremely lucky for ANY NBA team. Simmons being trash sucks, but there's very little chance that changes next year. That means you are banking on every team above you getting worse to improve, because you traded away your lottery pick already...

[supertruck97]

My team will get better and yours won't, sorry, I don't make the rules

Not what I said. I was talking about the competition.

It’s going to be harder for the Rockets to make the play-in next year with the Grizzlies and to a lesser extent the Spurs leapfrogging them.

For the Nets it may even be easier with Chicago and Atlanta looking to move key contributors.

So it’s very possible that the swap is only 1 or 2 draft slots or doesn’t happen at all.

I love that you continue to use definitive wording to describe how the Grizzlies (32.9% win %) and Spurs (26.8% Win %) will be leapfrogging the Rockets (50% Win %)

But the the Nets (39% win %) will have it easier by leapfrogging the Hawks (43.9%) and Bulls (47.6%)....

Delulu

[JKiddy]

The Hawks and Bulls are blowing up their teams. The Grizz get Ja Morant back. The Spurs have Wemby!!!

WTF? I feel like I am in another dimension here.... AND I LOVE IT!

[TheBrooklynKidd]

My team will get better and yours won't, sorry, I don't make the rules

Not what I said. I was talking about the competition.

It’s going to be harder for the Rockets to make the play-in next year with the Grizzlies and to a lesser extent the Spurs leapfrogging them.

For the Nets it may even be easier with Chicago and Atlanta looking to move key contributors.

So it’s very possible that the swap is only 1 or 2 draft slots or doesn’t happen at all.

I love that you continue to use definitive wording to describe how the Grizzlies (32.9% win %) and Spurs (26.8% Win %) will be leapfrogging the Rockets (50% Win %)

But the the Nets (39% win %) will have it easier by leapfrogging the Hawks (43.9%) and Bulls (47.6%)....

Delulu

The Grizzlies will have Ja back and probably win 50 games again, the Spurs have a genuine GOAT potential player.

The Hawks plan to move one of Murray/Trae. The Bulls are likely to lose one of, if not both DeRozan and Lavine.

Very different situations when you compare the conferences, but live in your fantasy if you like.

[JKiddy]

He is trolling and is GOOD AT IT.

He knows all of this already. You make it out to think he really believes that HOU has Hakeem and Barkley in their primes and that we have the worst team in the NBA.

[ThatBoyNick]

This is something that isn’t being talked about a lot, even by most Nets and Rockets fans.

Unless Houston lands a different big trade themselves, who’s to say they don’t take a small step back record-wise themselves, or remain flat line to last season?

The Rockets and Nets could easily wind up somewhere like say 9th and 11th worst records this year if both rosters remain relatively unchanged.

Ok, 2 spot jump is better than nothing, and Nets would likely get the OKC pick, so massive fail for them, but without lotto luck, good chance this isn’t a groundbreaking swap either year, from Houston’s perspective.

Even if Houston sneaks in the playoffs and Brooklyn is lottery, for Houston it’s probably something like swapping the 17th pick for the 10th.

Again, absolutely value there, but not necessarily what’s being touted as a lock for monster value.

Hence why in all these Mikal trade proposals, I always suggest ‘25 swap returned with BK right to defer to getting ‘26 pick back outright.

I don't think you understand the swap situation - it's OKC who has the right to swap with Houston - and not the other way around.

OKC is a top 5 team, Houston will likely be a late-lotto/middle of the pack team, Nets perhaps mid-late lotto team. OKC will execute it's swap with Houston, Houston will drop from mid 1st/late lotto to the end of the first, Houston THEN has the option to swap with BKN.

Even if Houston winds up with the 11th pick, Nets the 13th pick, and OKC the 27th pick next season, the swap is a big value for Houston as we'd go from 27 to 13.

[supertruck97]

Not what I said. I was talking about the competition.

It’s going to be harder for the Rockets to make the play-in next year with the Grizzlies and to a lesser extent the Spurs leapfrogging them.

For the Nets it may even be easier with Chicago and Atlanta looking to move key contributors.

So it’s very possible that the swap is only 1 or 2 draft slots or doesn’t happen at all.

I love that you continue to use definitive wording to describe how the Grizzlies (32.9% win %) and Spurs (26.8% Win %) will be leapfrogging the Rockets (50% Win %)

But the the Nets (39% win %) will have it easier by leapfrogging the Hawks (43.9%) and Bulls (47.6%)....

Delulu

The Grizzlies will have Ja back and probably win 50 games again, the Spurs have a genuine GOAT potential player.

The Hawks plan to move one of Murray/Trae. The Bulls are likely to lose one of, if not both DeRozan and Lavine.

Very different situations when you compare the conferences, but live in your fantasy if you like.

Warriors will be another year older. Relying on Steph-magic.
Lebron is a hundred and could easily go down with an injury while AD is lost for the season to a hangnail.
Brandon Ingram is in a contract year and may be traded for future pieces.

There are just as many what-ifs above the Rockets as there are "guaranteed disasters" above the Nets.

But yeah, Nets totally have it made. Just need another year for the power-core of Bridges-Claxton-DFS-Thomas to really shine .

[vincecarter4pres]

I love that you continue to use definitive wording to describe how the Grizzlies (32.9% win %) and Spurs (26.8% Win %) will be leapfrogging the Rockets (50% Win %)

But the the Nets (39% win %) will have it easier by leapfrogging the Hawks (43.9%) and Bulls (47.6%)....

Delulu

The Grizzlies will have Ja back and probably win 50 games again, the Spurs have a genuine GOAT potential player.

The Hawks plan to move one of Murray/Trae. The Bulls are likely to lose one of, if not both DeRozan and Lavine.

Very different situations when you compare the conferences, but live in your fantasy if you like.

Warriors will be another year older. Relying on Steph-magic.
Lebron is a hundred and could easily go down with an injury while AD is lost for the season to a hangnail.
Brandon Ingram is in a contract year and may be traded for future pieces.

There are just as many what-ifs above the Rockets as there are "guaranteed disasters" above the Nets.

But yeah, Nets totally have it made. Just need another year for the power-core of Bridges-Claxton-DFS-Thomas to really shine .

The dancing on the grave by Rockets fans is kind of funny. On Twitter it’s even worse, I’m honestly taken aback how homerific a large group of the fans are.

Nothing wrong with being excited by the outlook of the Nets picks and some friendly trash talk, but we’re in full blown fandom karma gonna bite you in the ass at this point lol.

Your franchise has been run pretty well for as long as one can remember, and you’ve had a recent run of good sustained success, but the way some of you dudes gloat you’d think your franchise has 12 chips including some which are more recent then 3 decades ago, or even a Finals run. Like you’re one of the straight up storied clubs in this league. Or that you even have one clear cut franchise level building block on the current roster.

It’s wild. And delusional.

[Kiss of Death]

Remember how Nets fans acted when Durant talked Harden into demanding a trade to the Nets.

Speaking of ‘dancing on the grave…’

[JKiddy]

I did not see one fan that I know gloat about the Harden to BK thing.

We all dislike Harden to an extent. He is a fat baby moron. But, when he was in his prime he was nearly unstoppable in the regular season offensively (we can't deny that).

[vincecarter4pres]

Remember how Nets fans acted when Durant talked Harden into demanding a trade to the Nets.

Speaking of ‘dancing on the grave…’

Who wouldn’t in that case lol?

Kyrie isn’t injured by a dirty play, Harden doesn’t get a serious injury for one of the first times in his career, KD’s hockey sticks are a quarter inch shorter, we’re probably talking a lot different about the direction of the Nets right now.

And like Jkiddy said, don’t remember anyone ripping Houston, iirc we all said what a good trade it was for both sides.

Nets fans simply thought we were almost a lock for one chip and a 3 year run at real contention.