YayBasketball wrote:LightTheBeam wrote:Ya I really like this for both teams. Here's an overcomplicated version that probably completes this for all parties (not including draft compensation, add as needed or as Chuck likes to say "a first to your favorite team").
Pelicans out: Ingram, CJ
Pelicans in: Murray, WCJ, Hunter
ATL out: Murray, Hunter
ATL in: Ingram, Cole
Magic out: WCJ, Cole
Magic in: CJ
Pelicans address 1 and 5, open up 3 for Murphy. Murray - Herb - Murphy - Zion - WCJ
ATL breaks up the failed backcourt. Temporarily takes Cole until they can find a new home (more complicated 4th team..). adds BI
Trae - Ingram - Johnson - Sarr - Capela
Magic add a short term high impact scoring guard and likely gets a pick.
Love this framework. Nice work here. This would be ideal for the Pels.
I also really like the OP. Trading CJ for a Center and cap space or TPE makes so much sense. Either to ORL for WCJ or to DET for Stewart. That would also have the trickle effect of creating leverage in the Ingram situation. Now with the extra cap flexibility, they could posture that they have the option to extend Ingram (to a less than maxmax) and keep him or trade him later. Or go ahead and trade him like in the above deal for a PG like Murray or Garland.
It's good but not Ideal. First & foremost I can't say with certainty that rotation is better than last years. Jonas (free agency)/BI/CJ out for WCJ/Hunter/Murray in. Maybe upgrades defensively with Hunter not starting in place of Murphy but offensively not even close, as it's a considerable down grade.
WCJ & ZIon would be a weak defensive & rebounding pairing in the front court, potentially worse than Jonas due to Jonas rebounding ability to close possession. NO's just let Jonas 15/10 on 15m production walk because they want to be able to switch defend to the point of playing Nance to a detriment. Green doesn't want to defend in drop coverage. If you watch the defensive metric's of a good Magic team Isaac is at the top of listed centers defensively & Carter is at the bottom, featuring the same defensive roster. As in some cases like the Hawks some centers are dealing with poor perimeter defenders like CJ & getting blame for their lack of rim protection when players are getting straight paths to the basket because of no ball pressure.
IMO trading for CJ & extending him tore down the Pels ceiling, halting their development & capping them out.
Ideally as a Pels fan, I want to prop the ceiling back up. Sarr is my primary target, moving CJ for cap flexibility & defensive fit my 2nd goal.
With Givony saying Atlanta is open to trading down to 4 for Clingan, Amico saying Spurs are very interested in Garland & Cavs having rumored interest in swapping Garland for BI. With the right value attached to each party. NO's helping the Spurs land Garland potentially gives them a path to #1. That to me would be ideal.