Get Garland to ORL

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Re: Get Garland to ORL 

Post#41 » by tidho » Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:18 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
tidho wrote:...

Agree this deal isn't overflowing with promise, but at some point you need to bite the bullet and course correct with the best deal you can find (I agree, hopefully this isn't it).

The should have a Mitchell commitment prior to the draft, i don't see any reason we couldn't make picks in this draft. Who knows if we'd end up keeping them anyway. You must remember that very awkward Andrew Wiggins summer.


I don't know that losing to the Celtics with both Allen and Mitchell out mandates any type of course correction. I understand that there are Cavs fans who want that outcome, but there's no non-emotional reason to bust up the team immediately. If Mitchell extends, Allen will be the player with the shortest contract of the core four and he'll have two full seasons left.


I'm not sure i could disagree with this any more. There's no non-emotional reason to keep this team together. Not even Koby is dumb enough to have watched the Eastern Conference playoffs, looked at our roster construction, and conclude - yeah we're fine.

The NYK physically (and mentally) dominated us last year, and had a significantly better roster this year. ORL took us to 7, and BOS handled us while missing one of their best players too. We were easily he smallest team in the playoffs, and our best players have redundant rather than complimentary skill sets.

You can't look at this situation logically and conclude it's just going to be fine if we let them play it out. This isn't the Brown/Tatum scenario, these issues don't go away with time. The only reason not to course correct is emotional ties to the players.
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Re: Get Garland to ORL 

Post#42 » by ProcessDoctor » Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:30 pm

May be unpopular with Orlando fans, but I love the Trae Young fit there. Send out Cole + picks to allow ATL to reset...

Trae/Black
Suggs/Fultz?
Franz/Howard
Paolo/Isaac
WCJ/Mo
2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:

Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Grimes/Edgecombe/Gordon
Oubre/Edwards
George/Watford/Walker
Embiid/Bona/Drummond/Broome
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Re: Get Garland to ORL 

Post#43 » by DowJones » Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:36 pm

tidho wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
tidho wrote:...

Agree this deal isn't overflowing with promise, but at some point you need to bite the bullet and course correct with the best deal you can find (I agree, hopefully this isn't it).

The should have a Mitchell commitment prior to the draft, i don't see any reason we couldn't make picks in this draft. Who knows if we'd end up keeping them anyway. You must remember that very awkward Andrew Wiggins summer.


I don't know that losing to the Celtics with both Allen and Mitchell out mandates any type of course correction. I understand that there are Cavs fans who want that outcome, but there's no non-emotional reason to bust up the team immediately. If Mitchell extends, Allen will be the player with the shortest contract of the core four and he'll have two full seasons left.


I'm not sure i could disagree with this any more. There's no non-emotional reason to keep this team together. Not even Koby is dumb enough to have watched the Eastern Conference playoffs, looked at our roster construction, and conclude - yeah we're fine.

The NYK physically (and mentally) dominated us last year, and had a significantly better roster this year. ORL took us to 7, and BOS handled us while missing one of their best players too. We were easily he smallest team in the playoffs, and our best players have redundant rather than complimentary skill sets.

You can't look at this situation logically and conclude it's just going to be fine if we let them play it out. This isn't the Brown/Tatum scenario, these issues don't go away with time. The only reason not to course correct is emotional ties to the players.


The other reason would be if the deals are terrible and make the team worse in 2025 and 2026. I agree with most of what you said, but we have to find a deal that makes sense.
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Re: Get Garland to ORL 

Post#44 » by DowJones » Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:38 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:May be unpopular with Orlando fans, but I love the Trae Young fit there. Send out Cole + picks to allow ATL to reset...

Trae/Black
Suggs/Fultz?
Franz/Howard
Paolo/Isaac
WCJ/Mo


I don't see how this makes sense for Atlanta. Orlando doesn't own any high upside first round picks and Atlanta's upcoming drafts are controlled by San Antonio.
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Re: Get Garland to ORL 

Post#45 » by ProcessDoctor » Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:42 pm

DowJones wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:May be unpopular with Orlando fans, but I love the Trae Young fit there. Send out Cole + picks to allow ATL to reset...

Trae/Black
Suggs/Fultz?
Franz/Howard
Paolo/Isaac
WCJ/Mo


I don't see how this makes sense for Atlanta. Orlando doesn't own any high upside first round picks and Atlanta's upcoming drafts are controlled by San Antonio.


It's really just them getting out of the apron and getting more picks to play with down the line. They'd basically be in the same situation Brooklyn is in, being competitive enough to not suffer the loss of their own picks.
2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:

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Grimes/Edgecombe/Gordon
Oubre/Edwards
George/Watford/Walker
Embiid/Bona/Drummond/Broome
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Re: Get Garland to ORL 

Post#46 » by tacos » Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:49 pm

Spirit airlines has a nonstop cleveland to orlando for 30 bucks... hard to beat that

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