Ingram to Grizzlies (with Philly and Spurs)

[PhillyFan11]

Sixers out: Paul Reed, #16, ‘26 1st(higher of 2), ‘29 pick swap(higher of Phil/LAC), ‘27 2nd
Sixers in: Keldon Johnson and Santi Aldama
Sixers get 2 good young role players than fit well between Maxey and Embiid

Grizzlies out: Marcus Smart, Santi Aldama, and Luke Kennard
Grizzlies in: Brandon Ingram
Grizzlies all of a sudden have 1 of the better starting 5 in the league with Ja/Bane/Ingram/GG Jackson/J Jackson

Spurs out: #8 and Keldon Johnson
Spurs in: Marcus Smart, Paul Reed, #16
Spurs get a tough vet guard to lead their young up and coming team, trading back 8 spots isn’t a huge loss in this draft.

Pelicans out: Brandon Ingram
Pelicans in: Luke Kennard, #8, ‘26 1st via Phil, ‘29 pick swap via Phil, and ‘27 2nd via Phil
Getting a top 10 pick + another 1st and pick swap will be a tough offer for any team to beat that is interested in Ingram.

[Texas Chuck]

I can't really believe you think Philly should use up cap space and this many assets to add Keldon/Santi. Just feels like absolutely terrible value here. I can't even move past them to the rest of this because so much value is being stolen from them to make it work for the other teams.

[Godaddycurse]

Just cut out grizzlies and spurs

[psman2]

Just cut out grizzlies and spurs

Yep, Memphis doesn't need another max contract offensive guy. But maybe a 3rd team that wants Ingram could be worked in here and figure out value.

Keldon is likely worth just taking his contract outside of SA he is value is neutral at best. Santi worth a very late 1st or 2nds only.

[esvl]

. Santi worth a very late 1st or 2nds only.

[Skybox]

Morey would jump off a cliff if this is what he gets after circling this summer on his calendar.

[psman2]

. Santi worth a very late 1st or 2nds only.

Objectively that is what he is worth on the open market. I don't think we are looking to trade him, but that is the range he would fetch.

[esvl]

. Santi worth a very late 1st or 2nds only.

Objectively that is what he is worth on the open market. I don't think we are looking to trade him, but that is the range he would fetch.

I think you are referring to the Realgm market as “the open market”. The other teams’ FOs might have have followed Aldama closer than Chuck & Co.

[wemby]

If Spurs are looking for a Marcus Smart type guard, might as well take Devin Carter with pick 8, probably a better bet going forward.

[Texas Chuck]

Objectively that is what he is worth on the open market. I don't think we are looking to trade him, but that is the range he would fetch.

I think you are referring to the Realgm market as “the open market”. The other teams’ FOs might have have followed Aldama closer than Chuck & Co.

They certainly have followed him closer than we have. Not sure that means they are going to pay a premium for one year of a rotation level player.

But do tell Chuck & Co why he is worth a premium asset.

[esvl]

Objectively that is what he is worth on the open market. I don't think we are looking to trade him, but that is the range he would fetch.

I think you are referring to the Realgm market as “the open market”. The other teams’ FOs might have have followed Aldama closer than Chuck & Co.

They certainly have followed him closer than we have. Not sure that means they are going to pay a premium for one year of a rotation level player.

But do tell Chuck & Co why he is worth a premium asset.

In short, the trajectory of his career reminds of the one of Lauri. Do you remember his market value fluctuations? Aldama needs 1-2 years of further physical and mental maturity to fully build his profile as an NBA player. He may become Lauri Light or Olynik, or fails to my embarrassment I will be willing to accept. We will see soon. But potential is there.

[PhillyFan11]

I can't really believe you think Philly should use up cap space and this many assets to add Keldon/Santi. Just feels like absolutely terrible value here. I can't even move past them to the rest of this because so much value is being stolen from them to make it work for the other teams.

Aldama for ‘26 1st (it’s Sixers or OKC so not likely to be a good) and ‘27 2nd

Keldon Johnson for 16 and ‘29 pick swap

Paul Reed is a nothing burger, his non-guaranteed contract isn’t likely to be picked up if not traded.

I don’t see where the bad value is honestly.

Plus the Sixers would still have nearly $30M and ‘28/‘30 1st’s to further improve the team. I see Johnson and Aldama as really good fits as role players with more untapped potential in better situations. Id much rather go that route than burn the franchise down for a 2 year window by signing/trading for the likes of PG or Butler

[PhillyNj]

I can't really believe you think Philly should use up cap space and this many assets to add Keldon/Santi. Just feels like absolutely terrible value here. I can't even move past them to the rest of this because so much value is being stolen from them to make it work for the other teams.

Aldama for ‘26 1st (it’s Sixers or OKC so not likely to be a good) and ‘27 2nd

Keldon Johnson for 16 and ‘29 pick swap

Paul Reed is a nothing burger, his non-guaranteed contract isn’t likely to be picked up if not traded.

I don’t see where the bad value is honestly.

Plus the Sixers would still have nearly $30M and ‘28/‘30 1st’s to further improve the team. I see Johnson and Aldama as really good fits as role players with more untapped potential in better situations. Id much rather go that route than burn the franchise down for a 2 year window by signing/trading for the likes of PG or Butler

The value sucks, but that really isn’t the point here.
The point is if all Morey gets out of max cap space and 2 FRP’s is Kelton Johnson and Aldama the fans would want him permanently fired!

[PhillyFan11]

I can't really believe you think Philly should use up cap space and this many assets to add Keldon/Santi. Just feels like absolutely terrible value here. I can't even move past them to the rest of this because so much value is being stolen from them to make it work for the other teams.

Aldama for ‘26 1st (it’s Sixers or OKC so not likely to be a good) and ‘27 2nd

Keldon Johnson for 16 and ‘29 pick swap

Paul Reed is a nothing burger, his non-guaranteed contract isn’t likely to be picked up if not traded.

I don’t see where the bad value is honestly.

Plus the Sixers would still have nearly $30M and ‘28/‘30 1st’s to further improve the team. I see Johnson and Aldama as really good fits as role players with more untapped potential in better situations. Id much rather go that route than burn the franchise down for a 2 year window by signing/trading for the likes of PG or Butler

The value sucks, but that really isn’t the point here.
The point is if all Morey gets out of max cap space and 2 FRP’s is Kelton Johnson and Aldama the fans would want him permanently fired!

*1/2 of available cap space

[PhillyNj]

Aldama for ‘26 1st (it’s Sixers or OKC so not likely to be a good) and ‘27 2nd

Keldon Johnson for 16 and ‘29 pick swap

Paul Reed is a nothing burger, his non-guaranteed contract isn’t likely to be picked up if not traded.

I don’t see where the bad value is honestly.

Plus the Sixers would still have nearly $30M and ‘28/‘30 1st’s to further improve the team. I see Johnson and Aldama as really good fits as role players with more untapped potential in better situations. Id much rather go that route than burn the franchise down for a 2 year window by signing/trading for the likes of PG or Butler

The value sucks, but that really isn’t the point here.
The point is if all Morey gets out of max cap space and 2 FRP’s is Kelton Johnson and Aldama the fans would want him permanently fired!

*1/2 of available cap space

10% of the value for 50% of assets. The big signing comes before you even consider a trade like this.

[Slacktard]

Morey would jump off a cliff if this is what he gets after circling this summer on his calendar.

He wouldn't have to jump. He'd be thrown off.

[the_process]

What if it was just 16 and 41 to Memphis for Aldama, Ziaire, and 39?

[Whole Truth]

I think the trade value is fair & I like Carter at 8 in this draft but there's no real proven value coming back for NO's 2nd best player. This is a volume trade & not ultimately what NO's want. Nothing in this trade is guaranteed to plug any holes & truthfully neither is my attempt at Sarr but that Unicorn fit with Zion is a tough find & that's a risk I'd live with as a result.

Daniels who's 20 is as good an option to start/develop as Carter for NO's. He's already proven to be elite defensively with signs of offensive progression losing development minutes to CJ's max.

As I also mentioned. I don't normally like drafting big men high in the draft, especially if it's based in potential but Zion is a tough build & there's been a revolving door at C I want to stop. My goal for NO's in this offseason/draft, is Sarr. Green wants to switch defend & the 19yo best skill is being 7' switch able, with indicators suggesting he should be able to be a floor spacer in time which is what Zion needs offensively, not a big that doesn't attempt 3's. If Sarr doesn't develop before the Zion experiment comes to an end, He will hopefully be a young 2 way C NO's can pivot to building with.

For Green & a team that wants to switch defend, (Sarr 1-5), (Herb 1-4) 1st team defense, (Daniels 1-4) who's only 20 & ranked #2 in d=Lebron, has elite defensive potential. Both Sarr 19 & Daniels 20 are low volume 30% shooters currently but have shown potential/indication they could be adequate spacers. Murphy who has good chemistry with ZIon, the deep spacing threat.

My offseason goal & projected "future" roster

(#1 Sarr 19 via BI pick trade) , (Vet either free agency or CJ trade to bridge development)
Zion 24 -
Murphy 23 -
Herb 25 - Hawkins 22
Daniels 20, (Vet PG either free agency or trade to bridge development)

Ideally, also some cap savings in the soft reset.

[jbk1234]

It's important to keep in mind that Philly doesn't really have two full max slots. They're using Maxey's cap hold to manufacture them. In addition to Maxey's rookie max, they've got players like Batum who I assume they want back.