Grizzlies/Pelicans

louc1970 · Post #1 » by **louc1970** » Thu Jun 20, 2024 4:29 pm

Looking at a few trade scenarios involving Memphis/NOP and maybe Houston. Assumption Ingram resigns where traded.

First option:
Memphis trades Smart/Kennard
NOP trades Ingram

Memphis gets a SF/PF to partner with Bane/JJJ/Morant. Memphis has enough defense to cover for Ingram.
NOP gets a PG with experience and size to run with McCollum, Williamson, et al.

Second option:
Memphis trades Smart/Kennard
Memphis receives Ingram
Again Memphis gets the SF they need.

Houston trades FVV/Sengun
Houston gets Smart/#21
Smart adds defense and lower cost. Adds an experienced 2G. Hpouston's defense moves to the elite status with Smart/Brooks/Smith. A pick is added at the back side of the first round which could be a big (Ware/Edey/Missi) or a PG for the future in Carrington. The #3 could be Shepherd/Buzelis/Castle/Clingan. McCollum could be moved further

Pelicans trade Ingram/McCollum
Pelicans receive Sengun/FVV/Kennard
Pelis get a center in Sengun, a PG is FVV. They plan on watching Ingram leave by not paying him, so the cost of Sengun/FVV become a player they do not want and #21. McCollum is simply replaced.

Kiss of Death · Post #2 » by **Kiss of Death** » Thu Jun 20, 2024 4:35 pm

Houston is not trading Sengun.

LarsV8 · Post #3 » by **LarsV8** » Thu Jun 20, 2024 4:38 pm

Fvv and Sengun for Smart and #21.....come on man.

Post #4 » by **jbk1234** » Thu Jun 20, 2024 4:49 pm

I think you need to send Smart to a team that needs him like the Hornets and then have them send value. The Pelicans have Herb Jones and Daniels.

The money is way off on the Rockets trade.

PELICANSFAN · Post #5 » by **PELICANSFAN** » Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:02 pm

jbk1234 wrote:I think you need to send Smart to a team that needs him like the Hornets and then have them send value. The Pelicans have Herb Jones and Daniels.

The money is way off on the Rockets trade.

Hawks could use Smart

QMemphis · Post #6 » by **QMemphis** » Thu Jun 20, 2024 9:02 pm

Grizz have absolutely no interest in Ingram.

esvl · Post #7 » by **esvl** » Thu Jun 20, 2024 9:41 pm

QMemphis wrote:Grizz have absolutely no interest in Ingram.

That had been my initial reaction. Then I thought about re-routing Ingram and got less negative..

Mrakar · Post #8 » by **Mrakar** » Fri Jun 21, 2024 3:29 am

QMemphis wrote:Grizz have absolutely no interest in Ingram.

Lol, for that price they are saying yes and making a party...

Rockets are getting robbed.

TGW · Post #9 » by **TGW** » Fri Jun 21, 2024 3:32 am

On what planet is Smart and the #21 worth Sengun?

QMemphis · Post #10 » by **QMemphis** » Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:17 am

Mrakar wrote:
QMemphis wrote:Grizz have absolutely no interest in Ingram.

Lol, for that price they are saying yes and making a party...

Rockets are getting robbed.

We not paying Ingram 50 million and he is a bad fit with the Grizz. Needs the ball, doesn't defend and isn't physical enough.

Mrakar · Post #11 » by **Mrakar** » Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:46 am

QMemphis wrote:
Mrakar wrote:
QMemphis wrote:Grizz have absolutely no interest in Ingram.

Lol, for that price they are saying yes and making a party...

Rockets are getting robbed.

We not paying Ingram 50 million and he is a bad fit with the Grizz. Needs the ball, doesn't defend and isn't physical enough.

Still has more value than Smart and Kennard, by a lot...

QMemphis · Post #12 » by **QMemphis** » Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:48 am

Mrakar wrote:
QMemphis wrote:
Mrakar wrote:Lol, for that price they are saying yes and making a party...

Rockets are getting robbed.

We not paying Ingram 50 million and he is a bad fit with the Grizz. Needs the ball, doesn't defend and isn't physical enough.

Still has more value than Smart and Kennard, by a lot...

Bro I don't care we wouldn't do the deal lol

Mrakar · Post #13 » by **Mrakar** » Fri Jun 21, 2024 3:46 pm

QMemphis wrote:
Mrakar wrote:
QMemphis wrote:
We not paying Ingram 50 million and he is a bad fit with the Grizz. Needs the ball, doesn't defend and isn't physical enough.

Still has more value than Smart and Kennard, by a lot...

Bro I don't care we wouldn't do the deal lol

You wouldnt do the deal "Bro"... Memphis GM would do it and drink a bottle of his finest whiskey after that.

esvl · Post #14 » by **esvl** » Fri Jun 21, 2024 3:53 pm

TGW wrote:On what planet is Smart and the #21 worth Sengun?

If you compare the lists of players who can effectively defend Smart and Sengun, it would help ease your pain.

QMemphis · Post #15 » by **QMemphis** » Sat Jun 22, 2024 4:52 am

Mrakar wrote:
QMemphis wrote:
Mrakar wrote:Still has more value than Smart and Kennard, by a lot...

Bro I don't care we wouldn't do the deal lol

You wouldnt do the deal "Bro"... Memphis GM would do it and drink a bottle of his finest whiskey after that.

I said what I said and Zach wouldn't because of the financial repercussions and basketball fit.

Mrakar · Post #16 » by **Mrakar** » Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:34 am

QMemphis wrote:
Mrakar wrote:
QMemphis wrote:
Bro I don't care we wouldn't do the deal lol

You wouldnt do the deal "Bro"... Memphis GM would do it and drink a bottle of his finest whiskey after that.

I said what I said and Zach wouldn't because of the financial repercussions and basketball fit.

Those things only matter if value is close. If its not you take the deal and improve on it later.

Trae Young is bad fit on Pelicans if CJ stays in backcourt. I would still take him if value going out is as bad as in this deal for the Grizzlies...

QMemphis · Post #17 » by **QMemphis** » Mon Jun 24, 2024 6:31 am

Mrakar wrote:
QMemphis wrote:
Mrakar wrote:You wouldnt do the deal "Bro"... Memphis GM would do it and drink a bottle of his finest whiskey after that.

I said what I said and Zach wouldn't because of the financial repercussions and basketball fit.

Those things only matter if value is close. If its not you take the deal and improve on it later.

Trae Young is bad fit on Pelicans if CJ stays in backcourt. I would still take him if value going out is as bad as in this deal for the Grizzlies...

We view ourselves as contenders, as contenders we prefer to have ideal role players to complement our big 3. Also with the emergence of some our young players like GG who is signed for 6 million the next 3 years we prefer to give him those shots not taken by Ja, Des and Jaren.