Brook Lopez on the trading block. {Trade proposals}

[Mascot]

Isnt Milwaukee above the 2nd Apron so that they can only do 1 player for 1 player trades?

[giberish]

Isnt Milwaukee above the 2nd Apron so that they can only do 1 player for 1 player trades?

They can do 1 player for 2 player trades (assuming the 2 players make no more than the 1 they're sending out), they can't do 2 player for 1 player trades.

[MessiahUjiri]

I should let it die.

But

Brolo to third team
Brown/minor asset to Milwaukee
Salary/minor asset to Toronto

Did we do that before the other leg?

Cause Presti has some low value assets to throw around and you can probably build an interesting deal there.. especially if you send other Milwaukee salary to Toronto and let Milwaukee get Jaylin or one of the other cheap role players.

Say Patrick makes enough that you could do Conn to Toronto, Jaylin+Kenrich+Brown to Milwaukee, Brolo to OKC and figure out the picks needed from there?

And OKC still sitting with 15ish million in cap space and almost every player on his roster being an asset..

That framework sounds reasonable.

OKC seems like the most obvious 3rd team because of their cap space, excess assets, and positional need.

Memphis and Dallas could be interesting, but it’s tougher.

[mcfly1204]

If Cleveland were to pull the trigger on maximizing Allen's value, Lopex would be a nice fit next to Mobley for a couple of seasons.

[islandboy53]

I should let it die.

But

Brolo to third team
Brown/minor asset to Milwaukee
Salary/minor asset to Toronto

Did we do that before the other leg?

Cause Presti has some low value assets to throw around and you can probably build an interesting deal there.. especially if you send other Milwaukee salary to Toronto and let Milwaukee get Jaylin or one of the other cheap role players.

Say Patrick makes enough that you could do Conn to Toronto, Jaylin+Kenrich+Brown to Milwaukee, Brolo to OKC and figure out the picks needed from there?

And OKC still sitting with 15ish million in cap space and almost every player on his roster being an asset..

That framework sounds reasonable.

OKC seems like the most obvious 3rd team because of their cap space, excess assets, and positional need.

Memphis and Dallas could be interesting, but it’s tougher.

Here's a potential structure for MIL/OKC/TOR, a package of two trades.

Trade 1:
Milwaukee out - Lopez
Milwaukee in - Brown, 25 Mia 1st, 25 Phi 1st

OKC out - K Williams, Jaylin Williams, 25 Mia 1st, 25 Phi 1st
OKC in - Lopez, cash (via Tor)

Tor out - Brown, cash
Tor in - K Williams, Jaylin Williams

Trade 2
Toronto out - K Williams, Jaylin Williams
Toronto in - Connaughton, 25 Mia 1st

Milwaukee out - Connaughton, 25 Mia 1st
Milwaukee in - K Williams, Jaylin Williams

[nate33]

There are no Lopez trades that will help Milwaukee.

Lopez is good, but he is old and expensive. Trades have to work for both parties, so if they move Lopez, they will be getting back someone younger or cheaper, but not as good, or they will get back someone better, but older and/or more expensive. Unfortunately, Milwaukee is not in the position where they can afford to get older or more expensive, so it is impossible for them to trade Lopez while improving their on-the-court performance.

[islandboy53]

I should let it die.

But

Brolo to third team
Brown/minor asset to Milwaukee
Salary/minor asset to Toronto

That framework sounds reasonable.

OKC seems like the most obvious 3rd team because of their cap space, excess assets, and positional need.

Memphis and Dallas could be interesting, but it’s tougher.

Here's another option with Golden State, also a 2 trade package. GS gets Lopez for a 1st, 3 2nds and 2 players they don't want, while retaining enough room to either sign Klay or use the full NTMLE and BAE. Milwaukee gets Brown, Looney to backup Giannis as primary centre, and a future 1st for Lopez. Toronto moves Brown and takes on Connaughton's 2 years for 3 seconds.

Trade 1:
Milwaukee out - Lopez
Milwaukee in - Brown, 52, 26 GS 1st

GS out - GPII, Looney, 52, 26 GS 1st, 26 Atl 2nd, 28 Atl 2nd
GS in - Lopez, cash (via Tor)

Tor out - Brown, cash
Tor in - GPII, Looney, 26 Atl 2nd, 28 Atl 2nd

Trade 2
Toronto out - Looney
Toronto in - Connaughton, 33

Milwaukee out - Connaughton, 33
Milwaukee in - Looney

[jayjaysee]

Isnt Milwaukee above the 2nd Apron so that they can only do 1 player for 1 player trades?

They can’t aggregate outgoing salaries.

Easier to work around when they have big salaries like they do.

But they shouldn’t trade Lopez realistically

[RiotPunch]

There are no Lopez trades that will help Milwaukee.

Lopez is good, but he is old and expensive. Trades have to work for both parties, so if they move Lopez, they will be getting back someone younger or cheaper, but not as good, or they will get back someone better, but older and/or more expensive. Unfortunately, Milwaukee is not in the position where they can afford to get older or more expensive, so it is impossible for them to trade Lopez while improving their on-the-court performance.

You're looking at it wrong, IMO.

It is possible to move Brook and get better on the floor because of the potential versatility the pieces brought in can afford. Lopez is strictly drop coverage.

Off the top of my head:

MKE: Stewart, Wiggins, PHI '25 1st
OKC: Lopez
DET: Kenrich, MIA '25 1st

Stewart is a multi-positional defender who can take the brunt of the beatings from the opposing 5's instead of Giannis, while not pigeonholing us into drop coverage. Better player than Brook? No, but more versatile and very possibly better overall team defense. Wiggins would be a rotational wing for us, and you can then play around with Portis/Connaughton/#23/ PHI '25 1st scenarios.

[nate33]

There are no Lopez trades that will help Milwaukee.

Lopez is good, but he is old and expensive. Trades have to work for both parties, so if they move Lopez, they will be getting back someone younger or cheaper, but not as good, or they will get back someone better, but older and/or more expensive. Unfortunately, Milwaukee is not in the position where they can afford to get older or more expensive, so it is impossible for them to trade Lopez while improving their on-the-court performance.

You're looking at it wrong, IMO.

It is possible to move Brook and get better on the floor because of the potential versatility the pieces brought in can afford. Lopez is strictly drop coverage.

Off the top of my head:

MKE: Stewart, Wiggins, PHI '25 1st
OKC: Lopez
DET: Kenrich, MIA '25 1st

Stewart is a multi-positional defender who can take the brunt of the beatings from the opposing 5's instead of Giannis, while not pigeonholing us into drop coverage. Better player than Brook? No, but more versatile and very possibly better overall team defense. Wiggins would be a rotational wing for us, and you can then play around with Portis/Connaughton/#23/ PHI '25 1st scenarios.

OKC isn't going to trade the MIA 2025 1st and Wiggins for Lopez. They'd be better off cutting Milwaukee out and keeping Stewart for themselves.

[Xman]

NO get BLo
Hou gets a 2nd
Mil gets ddaniels, nance, and either Tate or Landale.

DD gives mil some young guard minutes

[Colbinii]

NO get BLo
Hou gets a 2nd
Mil gets ddaniels, nance, and either Tate or Landale.

DD gives mil some young guard minutes

Don't see DDaniels in this.

Nance/Tate/Other Filler + 2nd(s)

[machu46]

Isnt Milwaukee above the 2nd Apron so that they can only do 1 player for 1 player trades?

They can do 1 player for 2 player trades (assuming the 2 players make no more than the 1 they're sending out), they can't do 2 player for 1 player trades.

It would further complicate matters but Milwaukee is also close enough that they could probably make a minor salary dump to duck under the second apron and regain the ability to combine salaries if they want to. Like teams would probably take Beauchamp for free if Milwaukee wanted to unlock that ability.


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[YayBasketball]

NO get BLo
Hou gets a 2nd
Mil gets ddaniels, nance, and either Tate or Landale.

DD gives mil some young guard minutes

Don't see DDaniels in this.

Nance/Tate/Other Filler + 2nd(s)

Yea not worth Daniels with Lopez's age, but I think Nance + pick 21 seems fair and realistic. Add in Lidell and JRE (TO activated) or maybe even Alvarado if Pels can keep pick 21.

Nance, #21, Liddell, JRE
OR
Nance, Alvarado

In theory, Lopez seems like a great 3 and rim protection big next to Zion. But Willie Green is obsessed with the switch-heavy defensive scheme, so I wonder how much he would adapt to embrace drop coverage if they got BLo.

[jbk1234]

Doc, like Griffin before him wants to move away from the drop coverage scheme and try to improve their perimeter defense. Jrue is gone. Middleton isn't what he use to be on that end. As good as Brook use to look in his role, it's not difficult for teams to exploit drop coverage when the perimeter defense is that shaky. Despite theoretically guarding the guy in the corner on the high PNR, Brook isn't stepping out to contest that shot. This can cause over rotating, or issues in the other direction, when your POA defense isn't there.

[RiotPunch]

NO get BLo
Hou gets a 2nd
Mil gets ddaniels, nance, and either Tate or Landale.

DD gives mil some young guard minutes

Don't see DDaniels in this.

Nance/Tate/Other Filler + 2nd(s)

Yea not worth Daniels with Lopez's age, but I think Nance + pick 21 seems fair and realistic. Add in Lidell and JRE (TO activated) or maybe even Alvarado if Pels can keep pick 21.

Nance, #21, Liddell, JRE
OR
Nance, Alvarado

In theory, Lopez seems like a great 3 and rim protection big next to Zion. But Willie Green is obsessed with the switch-heavy defensive scheme, so I wonder how much he would adapt to embrace drop coverage if they got BLo.

Nance + Grand Theft Alvarado would be very enticing.

[zimpy27]

Yeah put me in the camp that expect Portis to be traded and not BroLo.

[Xman]

[quote="RiotPunch"][quote="YayBasketball"][quote="Colbinii"]

Don't see DDaniels in this.

Nance/Tate/Other Filler + 2nd(s)[/quote]
Yea not worth Daniels with Lopez's age, but I think Nance + pick 21 seems fair and realistic. Add in Lidell and JRE (TO activated) or maybe even Alvarado if Pels can keep pick 21.

Nance, #21, Liddell, JRE
OR
Nance, Alvarado

In theory, Lopez seems like a great 3 and rim protection big next to Zion. But Willie Green is obsessed with the switch-heavy defensive scheme, so I wonder how much he would adapt to embrace drop coverage if they got BLo.[/quote]
Nance + Grand Theft Alvarado would be very enticing.[/quote]

Brolo and Jval would be strong. Plus, can probably extend them on the cheap.
Would overpay a little.


For mil, it’s all about cheap guys that can fit under the price.

[Telfaire]

A simple straight up swap with Orlando for WCJ makes sense, imo. Carter is a cheaper, more mobile defender, who can still shoot from three. Orlando gets bigger with improved rim protection.

[nykballa2k4]

I don't want Bruce Brown, Brook Lopez is a better more valuable player.

Many Bulls fans no doubt felt the same way about Alex Caruso vs Josh Giddey.

Not remotely comparable, Toronto fans(and it seems the genius Masai too) are delusional about the value of their players especially if they think Lopez would net them additional compensation and that they'd then flip Lopez for more than they'd get Lopez for. Brown was a good deal on MLE but not for $23M, not really a +defender and not really a +shooter. Do not want Toronto's trash, same as you guys.

Right now, I think Bucks believe their issue is they can't roster both Dame and BroPez because on defense it just won't work.

As a Knicks fan, I really would like Lopez because it gives us a big that can hit 3's and compensates for if we have Precious, Hart out on the court as non-shooters.

I can't say he has overwhlemingly positive value though.