Gafford for Capela and Sac first

[jayjaysee]

Bad timing with the THJ trade.. should lower my expectations.

Just a base idea for Atlanta and Dallas?

Atlanta does it just as that.

They get a younger, cheaper, better player locked up for a protected first while taking care of their tax problems. They didn’t draft Sarr or Clingan, so Gafford/OO provide strong defense for 48 mpg while both locked up on MLE level deals.

For Dallas.

This has to be part of a bigger trade obviously, just don’t know which direction to go?

Option A is the more fun where you send THJ and Capela with Dallas’ first and Sac first to some team and end up with a really good forward in Dallas. Throw in seconds, throw in Prosper. Throw in Dallas’ 2031 first if you want.

Option B is the less fun one. Trade THJ for a fourth year type and keep Capela.

THJ, Powell, Sac first to Detroit for Grimes. Dallas ends up trading Gafford, THJ, Powell for Capela, Grimes, vet min and DJJ.

THJ, Powell, Toronto 2nd, Sac first for Kispert, Butler, Omoruyi. Or something like that. Dallas again trades Gafford, THJ, Powell for Capela, Kispert, Butler, and DJJ.

[Godaddycurse]

Atlanta needs to figure out which direction they are going first. Keeping their 1st overall suggest to me they might retool/rebuild, in which case i hate OP for them

[gswhoops]

Atlanta needs to figure out which direction they are going first. Keeping their 1st overall suggest to me they might retool/rebuild, in which case i hate OP for them

Risacher seems like a guy you take if you're going to re-tool rather than completely tear down and rebuild, in which case this deal might make sense for them.

Not sure Dallas is willing to bite though.

[Godaddycurse]

Atlanta needs to figure out which direction they are going first. Keeping their 1st overall suggest to me they might retool/rebuild, in which case i hate OP for them

Risacher seems like a guy you take if you're going to re-tool rather than completely tear down and rebuild, in which case this deal might make sense for them.

Not sure Dallas is willing to bite though.

If they trade young then gafford will be wasted/not nearly as good imo

[gswhoops]

Atlanta needs to figure out which direction they are going first. Keeping their 1st overall suggest to me they might retool/rebuild, in which case i hate OP for them

Risacher seems like a guy you take if you're going to re-tool rather than completely tear down and rebuild, in which case this deal might make sense for them.

Not sure Dallas is willing to bite though.

If they trade young then gafford will be wasted/not nearly as good imo

Oh I agree. I think Risacher signals that they're not going to do that though.

Probably trade Dejounte and maybe Capela and re-tool their lineup around Trae/Risacher/JJ/OO

[jayjaysee]

Atlanta needs to figure out which direction they are going first. Keeping their 1st overall suggest to me they might retool/rebuild, in which case i hate OP for them

Risacher seems like a guy you take if you're going to re-tool rather than completely tear down and rebuild, in which case this deal might make sense for them.

Not sure Dallas is willing to bite though.

If they trade young then gafford will be wasted/not nearly as good imo

If they plan to trade Trae, they wouldn’t do this right? Even if they trade Trae though.. they would be building around Murray and youth? So Gafford would still be alright.

They owe picks and have two really good forward prospects already. Why would they trade Trae and not the lesser Murray?

[Godaddycurse]

. Why would they trade Trae and not the lesser Murray?

I think they trade whoever brings back the best return. Murray also makes alot less $$$ if ownership wants to continue to avoid the tax

[jayjaysee]

. Why would they trade Trae and not the lesser Murray?

I think they trade whoever brings back the best return. Murray also makes alot less $$$ if ownership wants to continue to avoid the tax

Wouldn’t Atlanta still have Murray and still want to make the play in though?

They can’t really tank and by the time they own their picks again Jalen/Zacc will hopefully be too good to tank with?

[Godaddycurse]

. Why would they trade Trae and not the lesser Murray?

I think they trade whoever brings back the best return. Murray also makes alot less $$$ if ownership wants to continue to avoid the tax

Wouldn’t Atlanta still have Murray and still want to make the play in though?

They can’t really tank and by the time they own their picks again Jalen/Zacc will hopefully be too good to tank with?

If they are retooling they should keep the picks they do have instead of upgrading to make/still get bounced in the play in?

I'll expand on my thoughts

If hawks trade murray for win now help - i like OP
If hawks trade murray for picks/young players - dont like OP
If hawks trade trae for win now help - don't like OP but could make sense
If hawks trade trae for picks/young players - dont like OP

[jayjaysee]

If they are retooling they should keep the picks they do have instead of upgrading to make/still get bounced in the play in?

Yeah. Kind of a weird circle.

If they are trading Trae. They shouldn’t do it or any win now moves..

But drafting the lower ceiling/higher floor guy makes me think they aren’t going that direction.

And unless they ask out, I don’t think you trade a player as good as Trae. Without even considering the pick debt situation.

I do hope for Atlanta’s sake that their ownership is willing to pay the tax starting in 2025 when Jalen gets paid. Just no reason to pay it this year over Capela.

[raleigh]

The initial post is hard to follow. Is the idea that Atlanta would trade a first round pick to get below the luxury tax?

[Godaddycurse]

I hate OP now lol

[jayjaysee]

The initial post is hard to follow. Is the idea that Atlanta would trade a first round pick to get below the luxury tax?

Daniel Gafford netted a first a few months ago

[raleigh]

Daniel Gafford netted a first a few months ago

That's not my question.