Sac/Spurs

[OxAndFox]

Harrison Barnes has 2 years and 37 million on the books, you're asking someone to absorb him into cap space PLUS giving you a high 2nd rounder for him, and this probably costs the Spurs free agency options as well, this year and next.

Had you said Harrison Barnes for Zach Collins (almost identical contract) and the pick, I think it could be worth considering because it didn't hinder the Spurs from a cap perspective so you're paying to improve your roster, but as it is it has costly side effects that go beyond the pick.

All in all, if the Spurs are not trying to win now, they can get a character vet without eating salary and sending picks. And if they are trying to win now, they will have better options.

I would absolutely do the Zach Collins in there. I wouldn't think Spurs would do that though? I thought he is kind of like a Barnes player for the young Spurs in a way you take the little bit of overpayment to be a good vet, even though he is 26? Could be wrong on that though. I would love Zach as a back up big and it would be a full circle moment for him.

[Chinook]

Harrison Barnes has 2 years and 37 million on the books, you're asking someone to absorb him into cap space PLUS giving you a high 2nd rounder for him, and this probably costs the Spurs free agency options as well, this year and next.

Had you said Harrison Barnes for Zach Collins (almost identical contract) and the pick, I think it could be worth considering because it didn't hinder the Spurs from a cap perspective so you're paying to improve your roster, but as it is it has costly side effects that go beyond the pick.

All in all, if the Spurs are not trying to win now, they can get a character vet without eating salary and sending picks. And if they are trying to win now, they will have better options.

I would absolutely do the Zach Collins in there. I wouldn't think Spurs would do that though? I thought he is kind of like a Barnes player for the young Spurs in a way you take the little bit of overpayment to be a good vet, even though he is 26? Could be wrong on that though. I would love Zach as a back up big and it would be a full circle moment for him.

Collins for Barnes would interest me, as it converts back up center to a rotational forward and allows the Spurs to experiment more easily with what archetype of big works with Wemby.

I don't know if Barnes for Graham fully guaranteed works or if it saves SAC enough salary. I could see that and the Spurs use their MLE on a different position

[SNPA]

Harrison Barnes has 2 years and 37 million on the books, you're asking someone to absorb him into cap space PLUS giving you a high 2nd rounder for him, and this probably costs the Spurs free agency options as well, this year and next.

Had you said Harrison Barnes for Zach Collins (almost identical contract) and the pick, I think it could be worth considering because it didn't hinder the Spurs from a cap perspective so you're paying to improve your roster, but as it is it has costly side effects that go beyond the pick.

All in all, if the Spurs are not trying to win now, they can get a character vet without eating salary and sending picks. And if they are trying to win now, they will have better options.

I would absolutely do the Zach Collins in there. I wouldn't think Spurs would do that though? I thought he is kind of like a Barnes player for the young Spurs in a way you take the little bit of overpayment to be a good vet, even though he is 26? Could be wrong on that though. I would love Zach as a back up big and it would be a full circle moment for him.

Same. I didn’t think SA would have interest. Sac should be open to it.

[SNPA]

Interesting thread.

Spurs knew they had Monte by this point. He needed a deal, they didn’t.

[wemby]

Good idea, failed on valuation: had Spurs paying a high 2nd round pick to get Barnes, instead received an unprotected first round pick swap in 2031 to take him in. Pretty significant detail.

[SNPA]

Good idea, failed on valuation: had Spurs paying a high 2nd round pick to get Barnes, instead received an unprotected first round pick swap in 2031 to take him in. Pretty significant detail.

I think Monte waiting hurts. Pop wanted Barnes, I showed that in this thread. But the Spurs didn’t need a deal right now…Monte needed a deal right now.

[Chinook]

A swap of first-round picks makes a lot more sense than the Spurs paying like this thread suggested. I'm surprised they didn't end up with SAC29 swap rights instead of SAC31. That would've given the Spurs multiple futures in eight straight drafts. Maybe the Kings had a reason to keep it from them.