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Re: Lakers - Portland 

Post#41 » by BlazersBroncos » Mon Jul 8, 2024 10:00 pm

JRoy wrote:
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JRoy wrote:No need to make a move without appropriate incentive.


We're beyond appropriate incentive. You're effectively asking for the Lakers' first born son and the land they live on.


That is hyperbole.

POR alleged wants multiple FRP. I am inclined to believe that or a deal would likely already have been made with some other team.


I think this is the truth despite disagreeing with it.

Albeit holding onto Grant with the hopes that a team with a short window and an aging core gives into the higher valuation that the PDX FO has on Grant isnt the worst gamble.
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Re: Lakers - Portland 

Post#42 » by Walton1one » Mon Jul 8, 2024 10:03 pm

There has to\should be? a place to meet in the middle. IMO, anything more than a 1st for Grant is a win for POR.

Two 1st round picks seems steep to me, but POR is not alone in asking steep prices right now (WAS\Kuzma (2) 1st's, BRK\DFS\CAM (1) 1st). I would hope that both Cronin & Pelinka see the favorability for both sides to meet somewhere in the middle while at SLC and find a way to make a deal.

Grant is certainly worth a 1st round pick, whether that is unprotected or with some light protections would affect what else comes with that pick. I would think adding a pick swap + a few 2nd round picks could meet that one 1st+ that seems to me to be the middle ground.
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Re: Lakers - Portland 

Post#43 » by Karmaloop » Mon Jul 8, 2024 10:14 pm

JRoy wrote:That is hyperbole.

POR alleged wants multiple FRP. I am inclined to believe that or a deal would likely already have been made with some other team.


It's really not. You either get quality or quantity. You don't get both. If you want multiple FRPs, you better be willing to agree to legitimate protection on those picks. You willing to take a single pick? The team giving up that pick better be willing to loosen the protections.
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Re: Lakers - Portland 

Post#44 » by JRoy » Mon Jul 8, 2024 10:16 pm

Karmaloop wrote:
JRoy wrote:That is hyperbole.

POR alleged wants multiple FRP. I am inclined to believe that or a deal would likely already have been made with some other team.


It's really not. You either get quality or quantity. You don't get both. If you want multiple FRPs, you better be willing to agree to legitimate protection on those picks. You willing to take a single pick? The team giving up that pick better be willing to loosen the protections.


I never said anything about unprotected picks.
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I was hoping and expecting this to be one of the first replies. You did not disappoint. Jroy have it all.
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Re: Lakers - Portland 

Post#45 » by Tim Lehrbach » Mon Jul 8, 2024 10:36 pm

I don't get Grant for LAL anyway. Maybe, if he's ready to be reduced to a finisher and spot-up player and defend on the wings again. Is that really the likely trajectory for his career, having had a taste of quasi-first-option, borderline-ball-stopping glory and getting paid like somebody with that level of primacy? I just see him gumming up the works for an already-slowing Lakers team. LA either needs a legitimate secondary creator to open things up and relieve LeBron of playmaking responsibility (not sure whom they can get for this role), or a true, high-efficiency spacer (Lauri!). And, of course, somebody to switchily defend forwards (but every team needs more of that guy).

I am not a big Jerami guy in the first place, but I especially don't see it for the Lakers. I could have their situation misjudged, though. Maybe they do just need a guy who'll hoist up shots at solid efficiency and play occasional defense and never rebound.
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Re: Lakers - Portland 

Post#46 » by Walton1one » Tue Jul 9, 2024 12:06 am

He is actually, a very good fit for LAL. Grant went to DET to get the bag and prove he is worth a big contract, albeit on a losing team, but I believe he went there to get the contract, same with resigning with POR. Now he has that contract, he has been that key 3rd/4th piece on a team before, I don't see him going to the Lakers and being that player again as an issue? What is he going to complain about? Not getting the shots to get 20/game? he already has the contract, I mean win\lose he is set and playing off Lebron\AD & playing meaningfull games at the end of the year, sounds like a pretty good gig to me.
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Re: Lakers - Portland 

Post#47 » by Tim Lehrbach » Tue Jul 9, 2024 12:18 am

Walton1one wrote:He is actually, a very good fit for LAL. Grant went to DET to get the bag and prove he is worth a big contract, albeit on a losing team, but I believe he went there to get the contract, same with resigning with POR. Now he has that contract, he has been that key 3rd/4th piece on a team before, I don't see him going to the Lakers and being that player again as an issue? What is he going to complain about? Not getting the shots to get 20/game? he already has the contract, I mean win\lose he is set and playing off Lebron\AD & playing meaningfull games at the end of the year, sounds like a pretty good gig to me.


Fair response. I maybe project too much on Jerami. He's still a good player.
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Re: Lakers - Portland 

Post#48 » by Norm2953 » Tue Jul 9, 2024 12:44 am

Blazers would prefer to get nothing but picks but since the Lakers are hard capped at the first
apron, they have to sent out guys Portland likely does not want for some incentive. That
incentive needs to be a FRP. If its earlier, there could be more protections but if the pick is
seven years out, less protections.

Jerami should be a good fit in LA with Lebron and AD.

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