Moving John Collins

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Re: Moving John Collins 

Post#41 » by jayjaysee » Sat Jul 13, 2024 3:46 am

ejftw wrote:
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Yeah, I don't see Clips giving up any seconds in that scenario, probably would ask for one if anything, but shouldn't be the case.


I doubt a second either way really kills the trade, but I have LAC going in owing a couple seconds in the Tucker/Dunn swap. So just kept it neutral.

If Powell holds enough value to a third team that it worksfor Utah and LAC, that’s good.


Sure, but I feel Powell should hold more value than Collins. Dunn being a free agent as well, Clippers can just sign him with whatever exception still left, as it has been agreed upon most likely.

With the Tyus speculation coming out, I'm leaning towards Mann on the move, and think Utah might like him. Mann/Tucker works according to FanSpo, would Utah give up a pair of seconds to get two expiring for Collins, one who is a veteran waste that probably gets bought out and another is a very serviceable connector/5th starter?


Utah should pay two seconds there. Easily. But that brings LAC almost all the way to their hard cap. So Dunn has to be really cheap (like 5-6 mil and Russ and Bones sent out?)

I don’t think Dunn isn signing for what’s left after DJJ money.
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Re: Moving John Collins 

Post#42 » by babyjax13 » Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:40 am

ejftw wrote:
jayjaysee wrote:
ejftw wrote:


Yeah, I don't see Clips giving up any seconds in that scenario, probably would ask for one if anything, but shouldn't be the case.


I doubt a second either way really kills the trade, but I have LAC going in owing a couple seconds in the Tucker/Dunn swap. So just kept it neutral.

If Powell holds enough value to a third team that it worksfor Utah and LAC, that’s good.


Sure, but I feel Powell should hold more value than Collins. Dunn being a free agent as well, Clippers can just sign him with whatever exception still left, as it has been agreed upon most likely.

With the Tyus speculation coming out, I'm leaning towards Mann on the move, and think Utah might like him. Mann/Tucker works according to FanSpo, would Utah give up a pair of seconds to get two expiring for Collins, one who is a veteran waste that probably gets bought out and another is a very serviceable connector/5th starter?

I think we'd absolutely add seconds for that.
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