Toronto - GSW - Cleveland

Godaddycurse · Post #1 » by **Godaddycurse** » Sat Aug 10, 2024 1:02 am

Toronto out: Olynyk, Agbaji
Toronto in: Looney, Okoro (S&T 3/45 or so)

Cleveland trade: Okoro (S&T 3/45 or so)
Cleveland in: Moody, Agbaji

GSW trade: Looney, Moody
GSW in: Olynyk

Why for Toronto: add a low usage 3/D starting SF
Why for Cleveland: add depth at the wings, should still duck tax.. if not add a min filler
Why for GSW: add a stretch big
Why for Okoro: get more $ than QO

BK_2020 · Post #2 » by **BK_2020** » Sat Aug 10, 2024 1:31 am

I don't think anyone wants to pay 3/45 for Okoro.

Godaddycurse · Post #3 » by **Godaddycurse** » Sat Aug 10, 2024 1:33 am

BK_2020 wrote:I don't think anyone wants to pay 3/45 for Okoro.

hmm cheaper the better for me. i figure he will get 3/40 to 45 or more otherwise he is better off signing QO

BK_2020 · Post #4 » by **BK_2020** » Sat Aug 10, 2024 1:38 am

Godaddycurse wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:I don't think anyone wants to pay 3/45 for Okoro.

hmm cheaper the better for me. i figure he will get 3/40 to 45 or more otherwise he is better off signing QO

Doesn't RJ Barrett start at SF for the Raps? Then they have Bruce Brown to back up the forward spots and a bunch of young guys who could do the Okoro job of playing ok defense and not taking any shots.

Raptors Realtor · Post #5 » by **Raptors Realtor** » Sat Aug 10, 2024 3:09 am

BK_2020 wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:I don't think anyone wants to pay 3/45 for Okoro.

hmm cheaper the better for me. i figure he will get 3/40 to 45 or more otherwise he is better off signing QO

Doesn't RJ Barrett start at SF for the Raps? Then they have Bruce Brown to back up the forward spots and a bunch of young guys who could do the Okoro job of playing ok defense and not taking any shots.

RJ is better suited at SG because he utilizes his size to get in the paint against smaller guards.

BK_2020 · Post #6 » by **BK_2020** » Sat Aug 10, 2024 3:17 am

Raptors Realtor wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
hmm cheaper the better for me. i figure he will get 3/40 to 45 or more otherwise he is better off signing QO

Doesn't RJ Barrett start at SF for the Raps? Then they have Bruce Brown to back up the forward spots and a bunch of young guys who could do the Okoro job of playing ok defense and not taking any shots.

RJ is better suited at SG because he utilizes his size to get in the paint against smaller guards.

Defense is not obligated to defend by position. There's no rule that says SG must guard SG and SF must guard SF. If Barrett was being pushed down a position by someone who's bigger and capable of ISO scoring, there might be some merit in having him at SG to give him easier matchups but having Barrett at SG and Okoro at SF is essentially just a clerical change. If RJ Barrett's at SG and Okoro is at SF, opposing defenses will just have their weaker defender on Okoro.

Raptors Realtor · Post #7 » by **Raptors Realtor** » Sat Aug 10, 2024 3:23 am

BK_2020 wrote:
Raptors Realtor wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:Doesn't RJ Barrett start at SF for the Raps? Then they have Bruce Brown to back up the forward spots and a bunch of young guys who could do the Okoro job of playing ok defense and not taking any shots.

RJ is better suited at SG because he utilizes his size to get in the paint against smaller guards.

Defense is not obligated to defend by position. There's no rule that says SG must guard SG and SF must guard SF. If Barrett was being pushed down a position by someone who's bigger and capable of ISO scoring, there might be some merit in having him at SG to give him easier matchups but having Barrett at SG and Okoro at SF is essentially just a clerical change. If RJ Barrett's at SG and Okoro is at SF, opposing defenses will just have their weaker defender on Okoro.

Yes, I understand this, however he actually played SG for us the majority of the time last season, and as mentioned in my previous post, had a lot of success bullying his way to the paint against smaller guards. That wasn't me speculating.

Post #8 » by **jbk1234** » Sat Aug 10, 2024 5:09 am

I'm not sure Okoro agrees to that. I don't think the Warriors can start Olynyk. I'd want to ship out Moody for a backup big. I don't know, maybe it's salvageable.

giberish · Post #9 » by **giberish** » Sat Aug 10, 2024 5:49 am

Feels easier if you just cut out Cleveland. Okoro's got more on-court experience than Moody but given his offensive limitations I'm not sure he's really better as a long-term guy. Toronto can rent Moody for a year and the cost is cheap enough that if he doesn't look useful they can just let him walk (and Toronto isn't exactly all-in for next season).

Olynyk gives GS a different rotation center option with spacing. With their current depth (no several for one star trade) Moody looks still buried on the wing.