Shams on McAfee: Pelicans have received no quality offers for Ingram, will go into season with him.

[YayBasketball]

Ingram, CJ, 2025 MIL 1st, and 2026 NOP 1st to BKN for Claxton, Cam J, and DFS.

Love it for Pels. Don't think Nets risk the tank or awkward contract situation by getting Ingram. I do think Pels have Claxton high on their Center list, though. Willie Green highly values switch D on the perimeter from C's, and Claxton is one of the best at that. I also really like Cam Johnson's fit on this Zion and Murray led team.

One minor quips with your trade framework-- the 2025 MIL 1st only goes to the Pels if it's 1-4, so not sure if Pels would give that or Nets would value that. Don't think Griffin will attach picks to move Ingram unless for a true star, but that trio returning would give Pels elite depth.

Claxton/ Theis/ Karlo/ Missi
Zion/ DFS/ JRE
CamJ/ Herb/ Ryan
Murphy/ Hawkins/ Reeves
DeJounte/ Jose

[meekrab]

The phrasing is weird here, is Ingram some sort of "quality" asset?

[jbk1234]

The phrasing is weird here, is Ingram some sort of "quality" asset?

Ingram is a good player, but the days of getting a vet max just by being good might be coming to an end.

[the_process]

Ingram, CJ, 2025 MIL 1st, and 2026 NOP 1st to BKN for Claxton, Cam J, and DFS.

Love it for Pels. Don't think Nets risk the tank or awkward contract situation by getting Ingram. I do think Pels have Claxton high on their Center list, though. Willie Green highly values switch D on the perimeter from C's, and Claxton is one of the best at that. I also really like Cam Johnson's fit on this Zion and Murray led team.

One minor quips with your trade framework-- the 2025 MIL 1st only goes to the Pels if it's 1-4, so not sure if Pels would give that or Nets would value that. Don't think Griffin will attach picks to move Ingram unless for a true star, but that trio returning would give Pels elite depth.

Claxton/ Theis/ Karlo/ Missi
Zion/ DFS/ JRE
CamJ/ Herb/ Ryan
Murphy/ Hawkins/ Reeves
DeJounte/ Jose

I thought that MIL 1st was top 5 protected? Hmmm. Well, if it's not going to convey then they will have to add another future 1st

Griffin is going to have to add to Ingram to get what he needs. Claxton really fits what they need. Getting rid of CJ's contract is also huge. Need to make more minutes available for Murphy and Hawkins.

I don't think Ingram would hurt their tank this year. He would be playing by himself essentially. And going forward the Nets can pay him appropriately or just let him go since they can justify it as "they got paid to take him" (which isn't really true, but it's definitely a narrative they can spin if desired).

[JHFVF07]

Ingram, CJ, 2025 MIL 1st, and 2026 NOP 1st to BKN for Claxton, Cam J, and DFS.

Love it for Pels. Don't think Nets risk the tank or awkward contract situation by getting Ingram. I do think Pels have Claxton high on their Center list, though. Willie Green highly values switch D on the perimeter from C's, and Claxton is one of the best at that. I also really like Cam Johnson's fit on this Zion and Murray led team.

One minor quips with your trade framework-- the 2025 MIL 1st only goes to the Pels if it's 1-4, so not sure if Pels would give that or Nets would value that. Don't think Griffin will attach picks to move Ingram unless for a true star, but that trio returning would give Pels elite depth.

Claxton/ Theis/ Karlo/ Missi
Zion/ DFS/ JRE
CamJ/ Herb/ Ryan
Murphy/ Hawkins/ Reeves
DeJounte/ Jose

I thought that MIL 1st was top 5 protected? Hmmm. Well, if it's not going to convey then they will have to add another future 1st

Griffin is going to have to add to Ingram to get what he needs. Claxton really fits what they need. Getting rid of CJ's contract is also huge. Need to make more minutes available for Murphy and Hawkins.

I don't think Ingram would hurt their tank this year. He would be playing by himself essentially. And going forward the Nets can pay him appropriately or just let him go since they can justify it as "they got paid to take him" (which isn't really true, but it's definitely a narrative they can spin if desired).

I think Nets can trade DFS to a contender for an expiring + 1st(Lakers? Dallas?), keep Cam and sign Ingram next year into capspace. If they luck into a great guard on the draft, they are set.

[the_process]

Love it for Pels. Don't think Nets risk the tank or awkward contract situation by getting Ingram. I do think Pels have Claxton high on their Center list, though. Willie Green highly values switch D on the perimeter from C's, and Claxton is one of the best at that. I also really like Cam Johnson's fit on this Zion and Murray led team.

One minor quips with your trade framework-- the 2025 MIL 1st only goes to the Pels if it's 1-4, so not sure if Pels would give that or Nets would value that. Don't think Griffin will attach picks to move Ingram unless for a true star, but that trio returning would give Pels elite depth.

Claxton/ Theis/ Karlo/ Missi
Zion/ DFS/ JRE
CamJ/ Herb/ Ryan
Murphy/ Hawkins/ Reeves
DeJounte/ Jose

I thought that MIL 1st was top 5 protected? Hmmm. Well, if it's not going to convey then they will have to add another future 1st

Griffin is going to have to add to Ingram to get what he needs. Claxton really fits what they need. Getting rid of CJ's contract is also huge. Need to make more minutes available for Murphy and Hawkins.

I don't think Ingram would hurt their tank this year. He would be playing by himself essentially. And going forward the Nets can pay him appropriately or just let him go since they can justify it as "they got paid to take him" (which isn't really true, but it's definitely a narrative they can spin if desired).

I think Nets can trade DFS to a contender for an expiring + 1st(Lakers? Dallas?), keep Cam and sign Ingram next year into capspace. If they luck into a great guard on the draft, they are set.

I don't think they get a 1st for DFS, but maybe. I know that's what they want.

Yes, they could max Ingram and sign him outright. But here they get his rights and two 1sts and a guard in CJ. And they consolidate their assets into their tank basically. Maybe they can use Simmons' expiring and those picks to get another guy? (Looking at you, Jimmy Butler).

[Wizenheimer]

Ayton to the Pels
Ingram to the Lakers
Russell + Hachimura + Lakers 2029 1st to Portland with Russell diverted to a 4th team

[Pattycakes]

Ayton to the Pels
Ingram to the Lakers
Russell + Hachimura + Lakers 2029 1st to Portland with Russell diverted to a 4th team

Would be depressing asset management for Portland if it’s reached this

[Texas Chuck]

Ayton to the Pels
Ingram to the Lakers
Russell + Hachimura + Lakers 2029 1st to Portland with Russell diverted to a 4th team

Would be depressing asset management for Portland if it’s reached this

Getting a post Lebron/AD 1st for Ayton is depressing asset management? I mean what are your standards if getting a high upside first for a negative asset is disappointing?

[Wizenheimer]

Ayton to the Pels
Ingram to the Lakers
Russell + Hachimura + Lakers 2029 1st to Portland with Russell diverted to a 4th team

Would be depressing asset management for Portland if it’s reached this

Ayton is a depressing asset

[Wizenheimer]

Ayton to the Pels
Ingram to the Lakers
Russell + Hachimura + Lakers 2029 1st to Portland with Russell diverted to a 4th team

Would be depressing asset management for Portland if it’s reached this

Getting a post Lebron/AD 1st for Ayton is depressing asset management? I mean what are your standards if getting a high upside first for a negative asset is disappointing?

I agree. It might be that the Lakers are desperate enough to capitalize on the last couple of seasons of Lebron/AD to send that 1st unprotected

I'm not sure if Ayton has negative value, but close

[Norm2953]

Hopefully TL will be able to play this season but it would be fine if the 2029 FRP was top 3 protected.

I'm always dubious with free agency, the Lakers would not able to replace Lebron and Davis when the
times comes for there will always be guys who will want to be the next star on the Lakers

[BlazersBroncos]

Ayton to the Pels
Ingram to the Lakers
Russell + Hachimura + Lakers 2029 1st to Portland with Russell diverted to a 4th team

Would be depressing asset management for Portland if it’s reached this

Run and a FRP would be a best case scenario for Ayton.

What do you think his value is?

[Dan Z]

New Orleans has spent too much time hoping that Zion will be the star who takes them deep into the playoffs. They should've traded him a few years ago.

Im mixed on the trades that Griffin has done, but overall his drafting has been solid.

Why didn't they re-sign Valanciunas? He didn't sign for very much to play for Washington. I bet theyll miss him this season, even though he's declining.

As for Ingram maybe his value will improve this year? If not, the Pelicans can let him test the market and go from there.