P.J. Tucker/2030 2nd for Wendell Moore Jr.

[oldncreaky]

Clippers are only 2.5M above tax, when push come to shove, they can trade PJT for 8 mil player and duck tax, he's acutally more useful on the books than off of them.
DET shouldn't take 11M for this little also.

Fine idea in concept, but the majority of players making under $8M are on rookie deals, or vet minimums, or value contracts that teams won't part with except for a good draft asset.

I looked for a player who is
- on an expiring contract of $9M or less
- not more valuable on the court
- not on a rookie deal with (presumably) some upside
- on a team that has room under the tax

and came up with diddly squat. I could have missed something, but there aren't a ton of options. If LAC is going to trade PJTucker, they may have to either pay significantly to dump him, or agree to take back some iffy money next year like Saddiq Bey (3 years, $19.3M) or George Niang (2 years, $16.7M) -- and they might have to add draft compensation for even these guys.

Also, strongly agree that Detroit shouldn't waste space and a roster spot on Tucker unless the draft compensation is a lot better than a distant SRP

[Mavrelous]

Clippers are only 2.5M above tax, when push come to shove, they can trade PJT for 8 mil player and duck tax, he's acutally more useful on the books than off of them.
DET shouldn't take 11M for this little also.

Fine idea in concept, but the majority of players making under $8M are on rookie deals, or vet minimums, or value contracts that teams won't part with except for a good draft asset.

I looked for a player who is
- on an expiring contract of $9M or less
- not more valuable on the court
- not on a rookie deal with (presumably) some upside
- on a team that has room under the tax

and came up with diddly squat. I could have missed something, but there aren't a ton of options. If LAC is going to trade PJTucker, they may have to either pay significantly to dump him, or agree to take back some iffy money next year like Saddiq Bey (3 years, $19.3M) or George Niang (2 years, $16.7M) -- and they might have to add draft compensation for even these guys.

Also, strongly agree that Detroit shouldn't waste space and a roster spot on Tucker unless the draft compensation is a lot better than a distant SRP

Doesn't have to be 8 mils, anything from 4 to 8 works, all Clippers need ia drop 2.5 mils, not really hard task

[oldncreaky]

Clippers are only 2.5M above tax, when push come to shove, they can trade PJT for 8 mil player and duck tax, he's acutally more useful on the books than off of them.
DET shouldn't take 11M for this little also.

Fine idea in concept, but the majority of players making under $8M are on rookie deals, or vet minimums, or value contracts that teams won't part with except for a good draft asset.

I looked for a player who is
- on an expiring contract of $9M or less
- not more valuable on the court
- not on a rookie deal with (presumably) some upside
- on a team that has room under the tax

and came up with diddly squat. I could have missed something, but there aren't a ton of options. If LAC is going to trade PJTucker, they may have to either pay significantly to dump him, or agree to take back some iffy money next year like Saddiq Bey (3 years, $19.3M) or George Niang (2 years, $16.7M) -- and they might have to add draft compensation for even these guys.

Also, strongly agree that Detroit shouldn't waste space and a roster spot on Tucker unless the draft compensation is a lot better than a distant SRP

Doesn't have to be 8 mils, anything from 4 to 8 works, all Clippers need ia drop 2.5 mils, not really hard task

The more money LAC saves, the more draft compensation they'll have to give up

Look at the list of player , and find one example of a player they could trade PJ for without giving up more than a distant SRP. Like I said, I couldn't find even one.

[Mavrelous]

Fine idea in concept, but the majority of players making under $8M are on rookie deals, or vet minimums, or value contracts that teams won't part with except for a good draft asset.

I looked for a player who is
- on an expiring contract of $9M or less
- not more valuable on the court
- not on a rookie deal with (presumably) some upside
- on a team that has room under the tax

and came up with diddly squat. I could have missed something, but there aren't a ton of options. If LAC is going to trade PJTucker, they may have to either pay significantly to dump him, or agree to take back some iffy money next year like Saddiq Bey (3 years, $19.3M) or George Niang (2 years, $16.7M) -- and they might have to add draft compensation for even these guys.

Also, strongly agree that Detroit shouldn't waste space and a roster spot on Tucker unless the draft compensation is a lot better than a distant SRP

Doesn't have to be 8 mils, anything from 4 to 8 works, all Clippers need ia drop 2.5 mils, not really hard task

The more money LAC saves, the more draft compensation they'll have to give up

Look at the list of player , and find one example of a player they could trade PJ for without giving up more than a distant SRP. Like I said, I couldn't find even one.

What's so hard?
Johnny Davis
Jalen McDaniels
Chris Duarte
And lots of others players...

Trading for lesser salary is much easier and costs less than buying cap space.

[oldncreaky]

Doesn't have to be 8 mils, anything from 4 to 8 works, all Clippers need ia drop 2.5 mils, not really hard task

The more money LAC saves, the more draft compensation they'll have to give up

Look at the list of player , and find one example of a player they could trade PJ for without giving up more than a distant SRP. Like I said, I couldn't find even one.

What's so hard?
Johnny Davis
Jalen McDaniels
Chris Duarte
And lots of others players...

Trading for lesser salary is much easier and costs less than buying cap space.

Sure, LAC will be able to trade Tucker for a lesser contract. I'm just saying they're going to have to add a lot more than a single distant SRP to do it.

We just saw Jalen McDaniels traded. SAC isn't going into the tax by trading McDaniels again for Tucker and a 2030 LAC SRP. He was traded for Davion Mitchell, Sasha Vezenkhov (bought out for nothing), and 2 SRPs, including a POR 2025 SRP that should be top 35 in a good draft. That's a ton more value than a LAC SRP 6 years out.

[Mavrelous]

The more money LAC saves, the more draft compensation they'll have to give up

Look at the list of player , and find one example of a player they could trade PJ for without giving up more than a distant SRP. Like I said, I couldn't find even one.

What's so hard?
Johnny Davis
Jalen McDaniels
Chris Duarte
And lots of others players...

Trading for lesser salary is much easier and costs less than buying cap space.

Sure, LAC will be able to trade Tucker for a lesser contract. I'm just saying they're going to have to add a lot more than a single distant SRP to do it.

We just saw Jalen McDaniels traded. SAC isn't going into the tax by trading McDaniels again for Tucker and a 2030 LAC SRP. He was traded for Davion Mitchell, Sasha Vezenkhov (bought out for nothing), and 2 SRPs, including a POR 2025 SRP that should be top 35 in a good draft. That's a ton more value than a LAC SRP 6 years out.

I disagree...

[chrbal]

Doesn't have to be 8 mils, anything from 4 to 8 works, all Clippers need ia drop 2.5 mils, not really hard task

The more money LAC saves, the more draft compensation they'll have to give up

Look at the list of player , and find one example of a player they could trade PJ for without giving up more than a distant SRP. Like I said, I couldn't find even one.

What's so hard?
Johnny Davis
Jalen McDaniels
Chris Duarte
And lots of others players...

Trading for lesser salary is much easier and costs less than buying cap space.

They’d still have to compensate those teams somehow. I’d rather see what any of those players can do then add ~$6 million and a second round pick in 2031 for the opportunity to waive PJ Tucker