What is the fair market for Ingram?

[basketballwacko2]

I think it starts with Jackson, McConnell, Mathurin, then either a SF or 2G. It’s a big package but salary matching.

That's where it falls apart, for a guy who's gonna want $40 million on the last ear of his deal, I wouldn't give anywhere near that for him.

The big issue I see is how to give salary equivalent players for Ingram.
I wanted McConnell moved last year, then he went out and a great playoff (for him). He is a good backup at Indiana or would be good at NOP. The cost to replace him at Indy might be too high.
Margarine is a backup that is being pushed to the third level spot. I am ok letting him go.
The big want is Jackson to be the dog on the interior. But again replacing him in Indy is high. He is backup there but a potential starter in NOP.
I was trying to figure what would be a good deal for Ingram.
Feel free to offer an alternative.
I would not give that amount either. The talks need to be done before the trade happens.

Matching salary is a huge problem trying to get Ingram to the Pacers and then it almost for sure puts the Pacers in the tax moving forward. So I don't see t happening.

[gswhoops]

Ingram is worth more to the Pelicans than he is to another team right now. Other teams know that they're trading for an injury-prone player who's on an expiring deal and will need to be overpaid in order to retain him, factors which significantly lower the price they're willing to pay and more or less ensure that the Pelicans will lose win-now value by trading him. The Pelicans, on the other hand, want to compete this season, and that means not getting worse by trading him at a win-now loss.

OG is also an elite defensive player. Any scoring he brings is just icing on the cake.

This is sort of a different discussion, but what you're saying isn't true. Do you see any no-offense defensive specialists lurking around the league these days? It's essential for any player to be able to contribute on offense, and OG is by no means a slouch on offense. He's a high-percentage perimeter shooter who can do some attacking off the dribble, and he's perennially averaged in the mid-teens in PPG on good efficiency. He's a strong two-way player.

If he were poor on offense, he would have nowhere near the same value on the court or on the trade market and would have fetched nowhere even in the same universe as the price the Knicks paid or the salary they gave him.

The point I was making is that he is absolutely a top tier defensive player. The same can not be said of his offense. His offense is adequate, solid without being anything special.

Disagree about his ability to attack off the dribble. There is much to like about his game (one of the best 3 and d guys in the game), but creation off the dribble isn’t one of them. Looks like his career average is 12 ppg.

OG is a good player but no, he's not a guy who creates off the dribble. Almost 70% of his 2pt baskets (and 96% of his 3s) were assisted last year. He's not a slouch on offense but he's not a guy who creates his own shot off the dribble.

[BK_2020]

OG can create off the dribble if Ice Spice is watching so it's a good thing he plays in NY.