Cleveland and Atlanta revisited

[JJ_PR]

Cleveland gets: De'Andre Hunter
Atlanta gets: Jaylon Tyson, Georges Niang, Ty Jerome and 2 2nds (2025 and 2026 via Cavs)

Why?
Cleveland gets their starting SF.
Atlanta gets a good prospect and unload Hunter's contract.

PG: Darius Garland / Craig Porter Jr.
SG: Donovan Mitchell / Max Strus / Sam Merrill
SF: De'Andre Hunter / Caris LeVert / Emoni Bates
PF: Evan Mobley / Dean Wade / Luke Travers
C: Jarrett Allen / Khalifa Diop
Coach: Kenny Atkinson

[jbk1234]

I wouldn't give up Tyler for Hunter.

[BK_2020]

Ty Jerome is just Ty, not Tyler.

[mcfly1204]

Ty Jerome is just Ty, not Tyler.

Either he thinks Hunter is utterly worthless, or he was conflating 'Tyler' with 'Tyson'. I'm going to assume the latter.

[BK_2020]

Ty Jerome is just Ty, not Tyler.

Either he thinks Hunter is utterly worthless, or he was conflating 'Tyler' with 'Tyson'. I'm going to assume the latter.

A Ty Jerome's career would be one of the high end outcomes for a 20th pick in the draft.

[mcfly1204]

Ty Jerome is just Ty, not Tyler.

Either he thinks Hunter is utterly worthless, or he was conflating 'Tyler' with 'Tyson'. I'm going to assume the latter.

A Ty Jerome's career would be one of the high end outcomes for a 20th pick in the draft.

I'd say that if Tyson had an equivalent career to LeVert, also a 20th pick, I would not complain too much. Clearly not a star, but a rotation player who can get you 30 on a hot night.

[jbk1234]

Ty Jerome is just Ty, not Tyler.

Either he thinks Hunter is utterly worthless, or he was conflating 'Tyler' with 'Tyson'. I'm going to assume the latter.

Yeah, I meant Tyson.

[BK_2020]

Either he thinks Hunter is utterly worthless, or he was conflating 'Tyler' with 'Tyson'. I'm going to assume the latter.

A Ty Jerome's career would be one of the high end outcomes for a 20th pick in the draft.

I'd say that if Tyson had an equivalent career to LeVert, also a 20th pick, I would not complain too much. Clearly not a star, but a rotation player who can get you 30 on a hot night.

Or he might end up like 4 players drafted before the 20th pick of the 2019 draft and be out of the league by 2024. Not even counting Cam Reddish who is probably on his last leg.

[tidho]

This looks like pretty good value. Maybe an overpay by CLE, but that's what you have to do in 'many-4-one' trades in the NBA.

Would not have an issue with this.

[toooskies]

Pretty sure this locks the Cavs into the tax unless they let Okoro walk for nothing, so we should S&T Okoro here rather than some of the other salary. Okoro's from the Atlanta area too.

Edit: But I like what Okoro and Tyson do for the roster more than Hunter, so I'd pass anyway.

[jbk1234]

This looks like pretty good value. Maybe an overpay by CLE, but that's what you have to do in 'many-4-one' trades in the NBA.

Would not have an issue with this.

Hunter has averaged 50 games a season over his career and he's well paid. The Cavs biggest issue is keeping everyone on the court. I'd consider offering future cap for him in a Niang and LeVert swap, but I wouldn't go beyond that.

[tidho]

This looks like pretty good value. Maybe an overpay by CLE, but that's what you have to do in 'many-4-one' trades in the NBA.

Would not have an issue with this.

Hunter has averaged 50 games a season over his career and he's well paid. The Cavs biggest issue is keeping everyone on the court. I'd consider offering future cap for him in a Niang and LeVert swap, but I wouldn't go beyond that.

I disagree that that's CLE's biggest issue. Moving Niang is a big win in this trade. I'd be fine with the Niang/LeVert deal too. That only works if ATL is fully motivated to get out of that contract.

[jbk1234]

This looks like pretty good value. Maybe an overpay by CLE, but that's what you have to do in 'many-4-one' trades in the NBA.

Would not have an issue with this.

Hunter has averaged 50 games a season over his career and he's well paid. The Cavs biggest issue is keeping everyone on the court. I'd consider offering future cap for him in a Niang and LeVert swap, but I wouldn't go beyond that.

I disagree that that's CLE's biggest issue. Moving Niang is a big win in this trade. I'd be fine with the Niang/LeVert deal too. That only works if ATL is fully motivated to get out of that contract.

I want off of Niang's contract as I don't think he should see the floor in the playoffs, but that doesn't mean he has no value during the regular season as a minutes eater. There were times, especially against meh teams, where the spacing he provided was helpful during the regular season.

Also, the Cavs don't have to dump all of Niang's salary to stay out of the tax when Okoro ends up signing the QO. They can take back a smaller deal, attach a second and stay out of the tax. I wouldn't trade Tyson to dump Niang. He could prove to be the best SF we've had (an admittedly low bar) since LBJ left and he's on a rookie deal for the next 4 years.

[babyjax13]

Hunter has averaged 50 games a season over his career and he's well paid. The Cavs biggest issue is keeping everyone on the court. I'd consider offering future cap for him in a Niang and LeVert swap, but I wouldn't go beyond that.

I disagree that that's CLE's biggest issue. Moving Niang is a big win in this trade. I'd be fine with the Niang/LeVert deal too. That only works if ATL is fully motivated to get out of that contract.

I want off of Niang's contract as I don't think he should see the floor in the playoffs, but that doesn't mean he has no value during the regular season as a minutes eater. There were times, especially against meh teams, where the spacing he provided was helpful during the regular season.

Also, the Cavs don't have to dump all of Niang's salary to stay out of the tax when Okoro ends up signing the QO. They can take back a smaller deal, attach a second and stay out of the tax. I wouldn't trade Tyson to dump Niang. He could prove to be the best SF we've had (an admittedly low bar) since LBJ left and he's on a rookie deal for the next 4 years.

I think Niang is there to help keep Mitchell happy. They've been pretty close since they were on the Jazz and he is a notorious 'good vibes' guy. I agree re: playoffs, not super great except for spot minutes (like ... 5 per game).

[bgrep14]

Pretty hard pass for Cleveland in my opinion. The best offer I'd make for Hunter is Okoro (S+T), Jerome, and Niang.