K_chile22 wrote:HartfordWhalers wrote:Ball4life32 wrote:and hey hawks at least got value when so many thought he was a negative at that time.
Ultimately Atlanta did:
Collins for Gay and Mem 2nd
then:
Gay,
Ty Ty, Usman, and Mem 2nd for
Patty Mills.
So, in total the value the team got was [Being rid of Collins and]
Swapping: TyTy and Usman (~5m in salary cut immediately by OKC) for Mills [6.8m and cut after the trade deadline]
I'm not sold that is value. I guess it really depends if you think half a season of Patty Mills and paying extra salary to get it and then cut him is value. Given Mills played 202 minutes it is hard to see the value for me...
Or put another way, I think cutting Gay would cost more than a 2nd that came with Gay, so that Atlanta had to take on some salary when dumping Gay with exactly that pick.
they also got two seconds for taking tyty and garuba into the tpe they had fwiw
I usually view neutral as TPE. Using the TPE to eat bad contracts doesn't make it more than a TPE, but then they did dump those contracts again, so the comparisons I see as fair are:
1) As I posted, netting out Gay as cleanly as you can.
2) Include the full Mills salary then as it eats into that origibal Collins TPE space (I know cap can configure that all sorts of ways).
If we go #2, then Atlanta got:
[John Collins raw cap space]
Ate 6.8 in Mills.
2025 Minn 2nd
2028 Hou 2nd
That actually seems cheap to eat 6.8m, no? I'm not sold that isn't negative value. If you think Mills (cut and played only 202minutes( was worth his contract then best case you have 2 2nds (one could be good).
