Jazz-Lakers

[zimpy27]

UTA get DLo, Reddish, Hayes, LAL27FRP(unprotect top 4), LAL29FRP(unprotected)
Jazz get to unprotect the Lakers 27 FRP and add another unprotected FRP to their chest.

LAL get Kessler, Sexton
Sexton, Reaves, LeBron, Davis, Kessler -- Gabe, Christie, Rui, Vando, Wood
Lakers look to upgrade their squad in two spots. They also get younger.

[LarsV8]

DLO and Sexton seems like a wash.

so this looks like Reddish, Hayes, and two firsts for Kessler.

I have Kessler as worth maybe a late first or a couple seconds.

In my opinion, this is a massive overpay.

[giberish]

I'd have Sexton as somewhat above DLo, but this still looks like a 2029 1st overpay by the Lakers.

Even then I'd expect that they're keeping their tradable picks in the hopes of making a star deal.

[zimpy27]

Ok so is the trade fair if Lakers just unprotect the LAL27FRP and add SRPs?

[babyjax13]

Ok so is the trade fair if Lakers just unprotect the LAL27FRP and add SRPs?

I think it is a tough inbetween. To me it is balanced by protecting the 2029 1st 1-4 and leaving the 2027 pick 1-4 protected, or by unprotecting the 2027 pick and adding the 2029 pick something like 1-10 or 1-12 protected w/the stipulation it turns into seconds. But, I'm not sure this is the best trade for the Lakers to use their picks. IMO, a simple trade where they unprotect the 2027 pick and add seconds to swap Hayes for Kessler makes more sense *to me*. There needs to be enough there, though, that if the pick isn't top 4 Utah is still getting something out of the deal other than filler.

[jazzfan1971]

I think the Jazz would be foolish to give the Lakers those two and help make the 2027 pick worse.

[zimpy27]

Ok so is the trade fair if Lakers just unprotect the LAL27FRP and add SRPs?

I think it is a tough inbetween. To me it is balanced by protecting the 2029 1st 1-4 and leaving the 2027 pick 1-4 protected, or by unprotecting the 2027 pick and adding the 2029 pick something like 1-10 or 1-12 protected w/the stipulation it turns into seconds. But, I'm not sure this is the best trade for the Lakers to use their picks. IMO, a simple trade where they unprotect the 2027 pick and add seconds to swap Hayes for Kessler makes more sense *to me*. There needs to be enough there, though, that if the pick isn't top 4 Utah is still getting something out of the deal other than filler.

Yeah that makes more sense.

Reddish+Hayes+unprotectLAL27FRP+SRPs
For
Kessler

[SkyHook]

UTA get DLo, Reddish, Hayes, LAL27FRP(unprotect top 4), LAL29FRP(unprotected)
Jazz get to unprotect the Lakers 27 FRP and add another unprotected FRP to their chest.

LAL get Kessler, Sexton
Sexton, Reaves, LeBron, Davis, Kessler -- Gabe, Christie, Rui, Vando, Wood
Lakers look to upgrade their squad in two spots. They also get younger.

I'm opposed to moving Kessler and Sexton, but I'd do it for this... contingent on moving Russell quickly. Zero desire to have him around the young Jazz players.

The standalone counter from from babyjax13 (unprotecting 1-4 on the '27 FRP + a mildly protected '29 FRP converting to '29 & '30 SRPs) probably works too.

[nzahir]

Ok so is the trade fair if Lakers just unprotect the LAL27FRP and add SRPs?

I think it is a tough inbetween. To me it is balanced by protecting the 2029 1st 1-4 and leaving the 2027 pick 1-4 protected, or by unprotecting the 2027 pick and adding the 2029 pick something like 1-10 or 1-12 protected w/the stipulation it turns into seconds. But, I'm not sure this is the best trade for the Lakers to use their picks. IMO, a simple trade where they unprotect the 2027 pick and add seconds to swap Hayes for Kessler makes more sense *to me*. There needs to be enough there, though, that if the pick isn't top 4 Utah is still getting something out of the deal other than filler.

Yeah that makes more sense.

Reddish+Hayes+unprotectLAL27FRP+SRPs
For
Kessler

We cant combine Hayes and Reddish I think (right?)

Can do Hayes and Maxwell Lewis though

[zimpy27]

I think it is a tough inbetween. To me it is balanced by protecting the 2029 1st 1-4 and leaving the 2027 pick 1-4 protected, or by unprotecting the 2027 pick and adding the 2029 pick something like 1-10 or 1-12 protected w/the stipulation it turns into seconds. But, I'm not sure this is the best trade for the Lakers to use their picks. IMO, a simple trade where they unprotect the 2027 pick and add seconds to swap Hayes for Kessler makes more sense *to me*. There needs to be enough there, though, that if the pick isn't top 4 Utah is still getting something out of the deal other than filler.

Yeah that makes more sense.

Reddish+Hayes+unprotectLAL27FRP+SRPs
For
Kessler

We cant combine Hayes and Reddish I think (right?)

Can do Hayes and Maxwell Lewis though

Why not?

Over 1st apron restrictions
Can't use the non-taxpayer mid-level exception or bi-annual exception
Can't take back more salary in a trade than they send out
Can't acquire a player via sign-and-trade
Can't sign a player from the buyout market who was earning more than the non-taxpayer mid-level exception ($12.9 million) before getting waived
Can't use preexisting trade exceptions

[brackdan70]

Ok so is the trade fair if Lakers just unprotect the LAL27FRP and add SRPs?

I think one pick with light protections is fair. I don’t feel Kessler is worth multiple picks or an unprotected pick.

[AingesBurner]

Sexton is much better than DLo because of attitude so I wouldn’t take anything less than this; DLo would be poisonous around rookies so I would have to pay him to stay home.

[Jody Smokz]

If Kessler even good? Why was he playing Summer League this offseason? How is a 3rd year guy playing Summer league ball worth a 1st round pick? The constant selling of him and Lauri on the board is odd b/c aren't they 2 young pieces you want to build with?

[Cappy_Smurf]

All this concern about fair value, but it seems Utah was never going to trade him for fair value, or it would have happened already.

I think it's more a case of Utah would be happy to keep him but is willing to listen to offers from motivated buyers. There has been no indication that Utah was looking to move him.

[mg]

I think the Jazz would be foolish to give the Lakers those two and help make the 2027 pick worse.

Agreed but Ainge basically already did the same thing when he traded Conley+ to Minnesota when he owns their picks too. Ofc Conley was alot older than Kessler/Sexton.

[mg]

Sexton is much better than DLo because of attitude so I wouldn’t take anything less than this; DLo would be poisonous around rookies so I would have to pay him to stay home.

Sexton is also a more efficient scorer and is signed to a reasonable contract for an additional season. He's also a player that can get to the FT line which the Lakers desperately need.

If Utah makes this deal they would definitely need to ship DLo to a 3rd team. The Jazz are looking for good actors/high character guys to play next to their kids which is why they signed a vet like Patty Mills and kept someone like Sexton who lives in the gym.