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Re: Kings-Blazers 

Post#21 » by Jkam31 » Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:39 pm

SNPA wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:Kings get Grant, Murray, Toumani, Reath
Fox, DeMar, Murray, Grant, Sabonis -- McLaughlin, Monk, Murray, Tuonami, Reath
Kings upgrade their roster and bring the Murray brother to the team.

Blazers get Huerter, Lyles, SAC27FRP(unprotected)
Blazers get an unprotected FRP and perhaps Huerter can be useful longer term.

Kings only need Grant/Murray. It can be scaled to just those guys so Blazers are happy.


Sabonis/Len
Grant/Murray
Murray/Murray/DDR
DDR/Ellis/Monk
Fox/Monk

Or my preference:

Sabonis/Len
Grant/Murray/Murray
Murray/DDR
Ellis/DDR/Monk
Fox/Monk


That’s worth it. A team with DDR and Monk off the bench is legit.


Absolutely love this trade for us gives us two big defensive wings in Keegan/Grant and grant shoots 40% from. We need to get bigger if we’re serious about competing and Grant helps that while providing scoring.

Derozan isn’t coming off the bench especially the way he’s fitting with the team zero chance. Now grant has three years after this year so he’s for sure hitting the bench still get 30+ mpg this year and next than he can start after DD leaves to keep him happy. Grant and Monk with Carter coming back would give us the best bench on the league. A closing lineup of Fox, DD, Keegan, Grant, and Sabonis would matchup and compete with anyone
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Re: Kings-Blazers 

Post#22 » by Jkam31 » Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:46 pm

Jkam31 wrote:
SNPA wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:Kings get Grant, Murray, Toumani, Reath
Fox, DeMar, Murray, Grant, Sabonis -- McLaughlin, Monk, Murray, Tuonami, Reath
Kings upgrade their roster and bring the Murray brother to the team.

Blazers get Huerter, Lyles, SAC27FRP(unprotected)
Blazers get an unprotected FRP and perhaps Huerter can be useful longer term.

Kings only need Grant/Murray. It can be scaled to just those guys so Blazers are happy.


Sabonis/Len
Grant/Murray
Murray/Murray/DDR
DDR/Ellis/Monk
Fox/Monk

Or my preference:

Sabonis/Len
Grant/Murray/Murray
Murray/DDR
Ellis/DDR/Monk
Fox/Monk


That’s worth it. A team with DDR and Monk off the bench is legit.


Absolutely love this trade for us gives us two big defensive wings in Keegan/Grant and grant shoots 40% from. We need to get bigger if we’re serious about competing and Grant helps that while providing scoring.

Derozan isn’t coming off the bench especially the way he’s fitting with the team zero chance. Now grant has three years after this year so he’s for sure hitting the bench still get 30+ mpg this year and next than he can start after DD leaves to keep him happy. Grant and Monk with Carter coming back would give us the best bench on the league. A closing lineup of Fox, DD, Keegan, Grant, and Sabonis would matchup and compete with anyone


Actually I can see Grant starting and going Fox, Keegan, DD, Grant, and Sabonis considering Grant is really a super role player and fits the system. James Ham has been adamant for a while now that the front office sees Keegan as a SF
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Re: Kings-Blazers 

Post#23 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:47 pm

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zimpy27 wrote:
BlazersBroncos wrote:Grant + Murray for Huerter + Lyles + LP 2027 FRP is a deal I would hope PDX takes and runs with.

Albeit Huerter isnt a great roster fit - on the other hand the more shooting around Scoot the better.



Yeah I think if Blazer pull out Camara and Reath then that FRP becomes lottery protected or close to it.


Blazers get Huerter + Lyles + SAC27FRP(lottery protected)

Kings get Grant + Murray


Worth it for Portland, IMO. Not desperate to move Grant, but for an extra swing at the draft, might as well.


Opening the way for Camara to get 32mpg and start next to Deni is something that I would be excited to see as well. Dont think he will get a chance to sink or swim as a starter unless we move Grant - and he really isnt that young, time should be now for him.
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Re: Kings-Blazers 

Post#24 » by zimpy27 » Tue Oct 15, 2024 8:22 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:
Tim Lehrbach wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:

Yeah I think if Blazer pull out Camara and Reath then that FRP becomes lottery protected or close to it.


Blazers get Huerter + Lyles + SAC27FRP(lottery protected)

Kings get Grant + Murray


Worth it for Portland, IMO. Not desperate to move Grant, but for an extra swing at the draft, might as well.


Opening the way for Camara to get 32mpg and start next to Deni is something that I would be excited to see as well. Dont think he will get a chance to sink or swim as a starter unless we move Grant - and he really isnt that young, time should be now for him.


Yeah this would be the chance to start Camara.

Scoot, Sharpe, Deni, Camara, Clingan -- Banton, Simons, Huerter, Lyles, RW3

Look to move Thybulle and one of Ayton or RW3.
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Re: Kings-Blazers 

Post#25 » by Norm2953 » Tue Oct 15, 2024 8:24 pm

Revised trade works fine for Portland.

Lottery protected FRP is likely still going to be the same pick as an UNP for the Kings
assuming they aren't decimated by injuries are a playoff team
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Re: Kings-Blazers 

Post#26 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue Oct 15, 2024 8:40 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
BlazersBroncos wrote:
Tim Lehrbach wrote:
Worth it for Portland, IMO. Not desperate to move Grant, but for an extra swing at the draft, might as well.


Opening the way for Camara to get 32mpg and start next to Deni is something that I would be excited to see as well. Dont think he will get a chance to sink or swim as a starter unless we move Grant - and he really isnt that young, time should be now for him.


Yeah this would be the chance to start Camara.

Scoot, Sharpe, Deni, Camara, Clingan -- Banton, Simons, Huerter, Lyles, RW3

Look to move Thybulle and one of Ayton or RW3.


Yep - this is much closer to the roster a young, rebuilding team should be fielding.

Dont see much market for Simons so keep him as a 6th man.
Try to move MT and RWIII for some picks (MT to LAC for Tucker and SRP? RWIII for Gabe Vincent and like 3 SRP).
Ayton wont return much (And salary matching is tough) so keep him around and let him expire, or move him next summer.

G - Scoot Henderson / Anfernee Simons / Gabe Vincent
G - Shadeon Sharpe / Anfernee Simons / Dalano Banton
F - Deni Avdija / Kevin Huerter / Rayan Rupert
F - Toumari Camara / Jabari Walker JR / Trey Lyles
C - DeAndre Ayton / Donovan Clingan / Duop Reath

It aint much but its better directionally by a big margin IMO.

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