[Charania]: Sacramento Trades McDaniels and a 2nd to San Antonio

[SNPA]

I just saw they really are pursuing Doug. Never thought I’d see a trade made to clear space for McDermott

If this is it then damn…that’s dumb as hell.

However, if Dougie is a replacement for Huerter who gets packaged with draft capital for size then it’s very solid.

No team needs Huerter and McBuckets.

It also saves them nearly $3m in salary/tax costs, as they’re going to end up about $1m over the tax line to start the season? They’re much closer to getting under the tax line now in an eventual Huerter or Lyles trade.

That’s not what I’m hearing. Reporters are saying they are 5.8m under the tax before the signing of McBuckets which will counts as 2.1m. They can use the remaining to sign another vet, as flex in trade or wait and maybe go past the tax and up to the first apron if something really good comes along.

[Scoot McGroot]

If this is it then damn…that’s dumb as hell.

However, if Dougie is a replacement for Huerter who gets packaged with draft capital for size then it’s very solid.

No team needs Huerter and McBuckets.

It also saves them nearly $3m in salary/tax costs, as they’re going to end up about $1m over the tax line to start the season? They’re much closer to getting under the tax line now in an eventual Huerter or Lyles trade.

That’s not what I’m hearing. Reporters are saying they are 5.8m under the tax before the signing of McBuckets which will counts as 2.1m. They can use the remaining to sign another vet, as flex in trade or wait and maybe go past the tax and up to the first apron if something really good comes along.

Think I figured it out. Smitty at Spotrac removed McDaniels from the spreadsheet, but he must auto calculate the salary totals, and he didn't remove McDaniels' salary from the total calculations in his Kings spreadsheets. So, when he shows the Kings $1m under the tax, that is essentially what they were pre-McDaniels trade, and he never updated the total calculations, while he removed McDaniels from the upper spread sheet.

Looks like the Kings should be $3.74m under the tax when Dougie signs. So, they have tax room to add a 15th. Or, more realistically, they stay at 14 and have enough tax room to accommodate the possibility that all their players max out incentives for the year and would end up about $274k under the tax line, in that possibility.

[codydaze]

It also saves them nearly $3m in salary/tax costs, as they’re going to end up about $1m over the tax line to start the season? They’re much closer to getting under the tax line now in an eventual Huerter or Lyles trade.

That’s not what I’m hearing. Reporters are saying they are 5.8m under the tax before the signing of McBuckets which will counts as 2.1m. They can use the remaining to sign another vet, as flex in trade or wait and maybe go past the tax and up to the first apron if something really good comes along.

Think I figured it out. Smitty at Spotrac removed McDaniels from the spreadsheet, but he must auto calculate the salary totals, and he didn't remove McDaniels' salary from the total calculations in his Kings spreadsheets. So, when he shows the Kings $1m under the tax, that is essentially what they were pre-McDaniels trade, and he never updated the total calculations, while he removed McDaniels from the upper spread sheet.

Looks like the Kings should be $3.74m under the tax when Dougie signs. So, they have tax room to add a 15th. Or, more realistically, they stay at 14 and have enough tax room to accommodate the possibility that all their players max out incentives for the year and would end up about $274k under the tax line, in that possibility.

Okay that makes a lot more sense. I thought I was going crazy trying to figure out where that extra tax allocation was coming from.

[Rapcity_11]

Can anyone explain why Jalen McDaniels was suddenly so awful last year? 17% 3P?

Was asking myself the same thing. He was pretty solid his last year or two in Charlotte/Philly.

He’s 26 - will some other team pick him up as a vet min free agent, just based on his 6-9 archetype?

I assume he gets ONE more chance based on his archetype, but he's also getting to the age now where he's not much potential. One last chance to prove himself?

Like, Indy waived Kendall Brown yesterday, which isn't surprising, but the timing was a bit weird. Maybe clearing a roster spot for a Jalen (minimum) signing to compete with Swider for the 15th spot?

Honestly, it was mind-blowing how bad McDaniels was last year. It looked like to forgot how to play basketball.

[SNPA]

It also saves them nearly $3m in salary/tax costs, as they’re going to end up about $1m over the tax line to start the season? They’re much closer to getting under the tax line now in an eventual Huerter or Lyles trade.

That’s not what I’m hearing. Reporters are saying they are 5.8m under the tax before the signing of McBuckets which will counts as 2.1m. They can use the remaining to sign another vet, as flex in trade or wait and maybe go past the tax and up to the first apron if something really good comes along.

Think I figured it out. Smitty at Spotrac removed McDaniels from the spreadsheet, but he must auto calculate the salary totals, and he didn't remove McDaniels' salary from the total calculations in his Kings spreadsheets. So, when he shows the Kings $1m under the tax, that is essentially what they were pre-McDaniels trade, and he never updated the total calculations, while he removed McDaniels from the upper spread sheet.

Looks like the Kings should be $3.74m under the tax when Dougie signs. So, they have tax room to add a 15th. Or, more realistically, they stay at 14 and have enough tax room to accommodate the possibility that all their players max out incentives for the year and would end up about $274k under the tax line, in that possibility.

If McNair gave himself all the options quoted in this post, and lands at $274k under the tax if everything maxes and he does nothing… that is damn good cap management.

He still needs to trade Huerter + pick for size. (Huerter/1st for BeefStew).

[Scoot McGroot]

That’s not what I’m hearing. Reporters are saying they are 5.8m under the tax before the signing of McBuckets which will counts as 2.1m. They can use the remaining to sign another vet, as flex in trade or wait and maybe go past the tax and up to the first apron if something really good comes along.

Think I figured it out. Smitty at Spotrac removed McDaniels from the spreadsheet, but he must auto calculate the salary totals, and he didn't remove McDaniels' salary from the total calculations in his Kings spreadsheets. So, when he shows the Kings $1m under the tax, that is essentially what they were pre-McDaniels trade, and he never updated the total calculations, while he removed McDaniels from the upper spread sheet.

Looks like the Kings should be $3.74m under the tax when Dougie signs. So, they have tax room to add a 15th. Or, more realistically, they stay at 14 and have enough tax room to accommodate the possibility that all their players max out incentives for the year and would end up about $274k under the tax line, in that possibility.

If McNair gave himself all the options quoted in this post, and lands at $274k under the tax if everything maxes and he does nothing… that is damn good cap management.

He still needs to trade Huerter + pick for size. (Huerter/1st for BeefStew).

Would be better if he could fit a 15th. Indy built their cap this year that if they max out all the incentives, which essentially requires a championship, they would be under the luxury tax line by $1. Some call it good cap management, I call it an amazing dedication to NEVER paying the tax.

[NCHeels2008]

Just another sign we need expansion, McDaniels is easily worth a roster spot

[BoogieTime]

Looks like this move was to clear a spot for Dougie McBuckets

I just saw they really are pursuing Doug. Never thought I’d see a trade made to clear space for McDermott

Why? When did 2nds become more important than rotational players (if it works)?

He looked crisp in his one preseason game to me, and was solid til the end of last year

[chrbal]

Looks like this move was to clear a spot for Dougie McBuckets

I just saw they really are pursuing Doug. Never thought I’d see a trade made to clear space for McDermott

Why? When did 2nds become more important than rotational players (if it works)?

He looked crisp in his one preseason game to me, and was solid til the end of last year

Wasn’t about the picks at all. I just think it’s odd to clear a roster spot for him

[blind prophet]

Looks like this move was to clear a spot for Dougie McBuckets

I just saw they really are pursuing Doug. Never thought I’d see a trade made to clear space for McDermott

Why? When did 2nds become more important than rotational players (if it works)?

He looked crisp in his one preseason game to me, and was solid til the end of last year

The thread is intriguing.

We sold so many seconds for straight up cash over the years.

We use one to dump salary instead. Then all the criticism.

Weird.

[chrbal]

I just saw they really are pursuing Doug. Never thought I’d see a trade made to clear space for McDermott

Why? When did 2nds become more important than rotational players (if it works)?

He looked crisp in his one preseason game to me, and was solid til the end of last year

The thread is intriguing.

We sold so many seconds for straight up cash over the years.

We use one to dump salary instead. Then all the criticism.

Weird.

Seconds are irrelevant in my point, Doug is better than McDaniels. I just think it’s odd to clear a roster spot for Doug

[zimpy27]

Why? When did 2nds become more important than rotational players (if it works)?

He looked crisp in his one preseason game to me, and was solid til the end of last year

The thread is intriguing.

We sold so many seconds for straight up cash over the years.

We use one to dump salary instead. Then all the criticism.

Weird.

Seconds are irrelevant in my point, Doug is better than McDaniels. I just think it’s odd to clear a roster spot for Doug

They didn't clear one for Doug. They were at 14 spots before moving McDaniels. Doug brings them back up to 14.

They still have another spot and are $3.7m under the tax.

I think.they will use the money they have under apron ($7.5m) for a buyout player or in a trade where they bring in $7.5 more than they send.

[Scoot McGroot]

The thread is intriguing.

We sold so many seconds for straight up cash over the years.

We use one to dump salary instead. Then all the criticism.

Weird.

Seconds are irrelevant in my point, Doug is better than McDaniels. I just think it’s odd to clear a roster spot for Doug

They didn't clear one for Doug. They were at 14 spots before moving McDaniels. Doug brings them back up to 14.

They still have another spot and are $3.7m under the tax.

I think.they will use the money they have under apron ($7.5m) for a buyout player or in a trade where they bring in $7.5 more than they send.

I can’t imagine they’ll cross the tax line, let alone go all the way up to the first apron. My best guess is they wait a while, and play the end of roster 10 day contract type dance and eventually fill the 15th roster spot, but maybe stay $1.2m from the tax line in case Sabonis makes All-NBA?