Ell Curry wrote:jbk1234 wrote:
People are getting way out ahead of themselves, but the Cavs wouldn't trade Tyson or multiple 2nds to turn CJ into Collins. CJ is the better player and far more likely to provide useful minutes off the bench in the playoffs.
Same situation with the Raptors package. CJ is still the best player in the package by a considerable margin. Playoff teams won't be adding value for the privilege of trading the better player. That's just not how it works.
Hard to think of a worse playoff team than one with Mitchell and Garland for CJ to join. That's a defensive tire fire. I think he'd be moved. I suggested Collins because it's hard to find similar length/size contracts and that seems more likely than Cleveland taking on someone like Wiggins for an extra year or paying enough to get off of 30M+ in bad CJ money next year.
And Collins would be very useful to a post-Allen Cleveland team with Mobley at the 5, an undersized Okoro at the 4 and the backup bigs being JT Thor, Dean Wade, Niang and Tristan Thompson. That's so thin it basically makes getting any kind of playable 4/5 bench player a necessity in any Jarrett Allen trade, unless Caris Levert's expiring can bring back that guy instead.[/quote]
Collins would not be very useful to any playoff team as he's pretty awful defensively and would be hard to keep on the floor (like Olynyk). CJ would allow a three guard rotation where every single guy would be a triple threat offensively.
None of this matters as the Cavs and Pelicans have not agreed to any trade, let alone one where the Cavs take back CJ.
