LAL - Portland - Minnesota

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Re: LAL - Portland - Minnesota 

Post#21 » by DonaldSanders » Sat Oct 19, 2024 4:39 am

wolves_89 wrote:
DonaldSanders wrote:I think Minnesota can get a better trade for NAW than this.


I think there is a decent chance NAW is available at the trade deadline, especially if Minott and/or Shannon establish themselves. At that point, NAW's skillset could be in high demand resulting in offers much more attractive than Reath or JHS.



Absolutely, NAW is worth more than this -- multiple teams would offer more. I also don't think JHS+2nd is close to NAW at the moment. Maybe JHS will grow, but last year was really rough.
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Re: LAL - Portland - Minnesota 

Post#22 » by wemby » Sat Oct 19, 2024 9:49 am

JRoy wrote:
Waynearchetype wrote:Did you mean 2 srp? Reath isnt worth an FRP.


Heavens!

I absolutely did. He isn’t worth a single FRP.

I don't think he's worth 2 SRPs either, unless they're not very good ones.
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Re: LAL - Portland - Minnesota 

Post#23 » by nolian » Sat Oct 19, 2024 12:40 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:Minnesota trade: NAW
Minnesota receive: Reath, better of LAL/LAC 2025 2nd

Portland trade: Reath
Portland receive: JHS, laker filler

LAL trade: JHS, filer, better of LAL/LAC 2025 2nd
LAL receive: NAW

Why for LAL: get a POA wing defender
Why for Portland: take a flier on a prospect
Why for Minnesota: add C depth

Minnesota doesn't have room for Reath, and doesn't need another Center , they already have Gobert, Reid, Garza, J.Edwards

I also think you can get better for NAW
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Re: LAL - Portland - Minnesota 

Post#24 » by schaffy » Sat Oct 19, 2024 12:50 pm

nolian wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:Minnesota trade: NAW
Minnesota receive: Reath, better of LAL/LAC 2025 2nd

Portland trade: Reath
Portland receive: JHS, laker filler

LAL trade: JHS, filer, better of LAL/LAC 2025 2nd
LAL receive: NAW

Why for LAL: get a POA wing defender
Why for Portland: take a flier on a prospect
Why for Minnesota: add C depth

Minnesota doesn't have room for Reath, and doesn't need another Center , they already have Gobert, Reid, Garza, J.Edwards

I also think you can get better for NAW
Edwards hasn't shown anything yet I wouldn't feel comfortable at all listing him on a depth chart. Reath has at minimum demonstrated he is a viable bench big.

But I wouldn't deal NAW for him right now. Dealing a rotation player for a guy who wouldn't be doesn't feel like a good move. Injuries could change that of course, but I'd rather cross that bridge if we get there vs giving away the more useful player right away on the chance it's needed later.

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Re: LAL - Portland - Minnesota 

Post#25 » by nolian » Sat Oct 19, 2024 1:13 pm

schaffy wrote:
nolian wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:Minnesota trade: NAW
Minnesota receive: Reath, better of LAL/LAC 2025 2nd

Portland trade: Reath
Portland receive: JHS, laker filler

LAL trade: JHS, filer, better of LAL/LAC 2025 2nd
LAL receive: NAW

Why for LAL: get a POA wing defender
Why for Portland: take a flier on a prospect
Why for Minnesota: add C depth

Minnesota doesn't have room for Reath, and doesn't need another Center , they already have Gobert, Reid, Garza, J.Edwards

I also think you can get better for NAW
Edwards hasn't shown anything yet I wouldn't feel comfortable at all listing him on a depth chart. Reath has at minimum demonstrated he is a viable bench big.

But I wouldn't deal NAW for him right now. Dealing a rotation player for a guy who wouldn't be doesn't feel like a good move. Injuries could change that of course, but I'd rather cross that bridge if we get there vs giving away the more useful player right away on the chance it's needed later.

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neither Edwards and Garza will be in the rotation

if arrives someone like Reath, he can will take the spot of Edwards (easily) or of Garza (i don't think so) anyway he will not be in the rotation

so, it have no-sense for Minnesota to trade NAW for a non-rotational player
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Re: LAL - Portland - Minnesota 

Post#26 » by shrink » Sat Oct 19, 2024 2:37 pm

I don’t know what Nickiel Alexander-Walker’s price would be as an expiring with Bird rights, but I think he would be in high demand as a point-of-attack defender. He led the NBA in screen navigation last year, and people that only watch the Wolves in the playoffs got a glimpse of the defense we saw all year, when NAW would shut down Jamal Murray or Devin Booker. Besides the Lakers, both DEN and PHX, and several others teams, could really use a defensive guy like NAW right now.

MIN’s a contender too, and being able to bring a quality rotation player like NAW off the bench was a huge reason MIN was so successful last year. However, the addition of Donte DiVincenzo, and spending two 1sts on Rob Dillingham and college senior TJ Shannon means they need to find minutes at SG. I don’t see them having any interest in Hood-Schifino.

Finally, if a NAW trade happens, I do think it will be for a back up center. Behind Gobert, MIN has Naz and Luka. Both may have had the weight to bang underneath when they entered the league (270 and 252), but both have transformed their bodies and are now in the 230 range. Nationally people think Naz is a center, but he is now a big wing, a PF who is more of an SF than a C - last season, MIN even played him a little alongside Gobert and Towns. We all love Luka Garza, but he is a third string center, great offensively but struggles on defense. If MIN isn’t playing smallball, the most likely backup center is Randle, which is clearly problematic.

GoDaddyCurse original trade is the most feasible - I just don’t know Reath well enough to know if it’s enough value for MIN to reduce their playoff chances and trade away NAW. But it is designed realistically from the Wolves’ side.
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Re: LAL - Portland - Minnesota 

Post#27 » by Godaddycurse » Sat Oct 19, 2024 2:43 pm

i have NAW worth 3-4 2nds fwiw and JHS worth 2 2nds. i dont think NAW will fetch a 1st on his own
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Re: LAL - Portland - Minnesota 

Post#28 » by Colbinii » Sat Oct 19, 2024 4:48 pm

shrink wrote:I don’t know what Nickiel Alexander-Walker’s price would be as an expiring with Bird rights, but I think he would be in high demand as a point-of-attack defender. He led the NBA in screen navigation last year, and people that only watch the Wolves in the playoffs got a glimpse of the defense we saw all year, when NAW would shut down Jamal Murray or Devin Booker. Besides the Lakers, both DEN and PHX, and several others teams, could really use a defensive guy like NAW right now.


Phoenix doesn't. They have Okogie/Dunn and then Allen/O'Neale as guys who aren't bad defensively but are smaller and in Allen's case, provides offensive lift.

Denver? Yeah, but they have no assets.

GoDaddyCurse original trade is the most feasible - I just don’t know Reath well enough to know if it’s enough value for MIN to reduce their playoff chances and trade away NAW. But it is designed realistically from the Wolves’ side.


Minnesota isn't moving a known quantity in NAW for an unknown quantity in Reath.

Maybe looking at teams with a TPE makes more sense.

New York Knicks (no assets)
New Orleans (Needs a big)
Miami
Memphis
Sacramento
Dallas
Golden State

Unfortunately, most of these teams are out west.
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Re: LAL - Portland - Minnesota 

Post#29 » by winforlose » Mon Oct 21, 2024 1:46 am

shrink wrote:I don’t know what Nickiel Alexander-Walker’s price would be as an expiring with Bird rights, but I think he would be in high demand as a point-of-attack defender. He led the NBA in screen navigation last year, and people that only watch the Wolves in the playoffs got a glimpse of the defense we saw all year, when NAW would shut down Jamal Murray or Devin Booker. Besides the Lakers, both DEN and PHX, and several others teams, could really use a defensive guy like NAW right now.

MIN’s a contender too, and being able to bring a quality rotation player like NAW off the bench was a huge reason MIN was so successful last year. However, the addition of Donte DiVincenzo, and spending two 1sts on Rob Dillingham and college senior TJ Shannon means they need to find minutes at SG. I don’t see them having any interest in Hood-Schifino.

Finally, if a NAW trade happens, I do think it will be for a back up center. Behind Gobert, MIN has Naz and Luka. Both may have had the weight to bang underneath when they entered the league (270 and 252), but both have transformed their bodies and are now in the 230 range. Nationally people think Naz is a center, but he is now a big wing, a PF who is more of an SF than a C - last season, MIN even played him a little alongside Gobert and Towns. We all love Luka Garza, but he is a third string center, great offensively but struggles on defense. If MIN isn’t playing smallball, the most likely backup center is Randle, which is clearly problematic.

GoDaddyCurse original trade is the most feasible - I just don’t know Reath well enough to know if it’s enough value for MIN to reduce their playoff chances and trade away NAW. But it is designed realistically from the Wolves’ side.


Don’t forget that while a 2nd apron team cannot sign and trade players for other players, we could sign him for say MLE money (using bird rights,) and trade him 3 months later. With more money going out we have the ability to take more back. If we were to move him this season, the player would need to be ahead of Luka on the depth chart in day 1, and that would likely mean a player better than Reath.
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Re: LAL - Portland - Minnesota 

Post#30 » by Walton1one » Mon Oct 21, 2024 6:11 pm

If POR can get a 2nd round pick or a flyer on a young player for Duop Reath, they should do it.

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