Does Zubac getting that massive double double mean the Dubs need more size?

[gswhoops]

I think guys that fit Golden State are Nance, WCJ, Wagner, and Lopez. Out of those Nance is probably the most available? Maybe Bitazde could also be a decent fit?

Lopez would be the dream, but I don't see any realistic way to get him. Pretty sure WCJ is ineligible to be traded this year because of his extension?

Would also be interested in Nance if he became available.

You might be right on WCJ. I could see Lopez IF Wiggins continues to play well and Milwaukee decides they need to get a bit younger and would like a wing.

Sadly Wiggins makes about ~$3M more than Lopez, so the apron rules basically make it impossible

[ChettheJet]

Of course nobody wants to hear it and it's only 3 games, Nikola Vucevic 20 points ad 11 rebounds. Sure won't cost GSW a FRP, maybe add a 3rd team so the Bulls get a couple seconds, Looney and somebody to match money.

[ConSarnit]

I was not disputing the value, only GPS bogus claims against POR as he crop dusted the franchise on his way out the door.

This doesn't prevent a trade though.

I disagree.

No offense but this would be a terrible way to run a franchise. If you can get a 1st for RW3 you do it and don't look back. Just waive GP2, he never even has to get on the plane to POR.

[JRoy]

This doesn't prevent a trade though.

I disagree.

No offense but this would be a terrible way to run a franchise. If you can get a 1st for RW3 you do it and don't look back. Just waive GP2, he never even has to get on the plane to POR.

I am not offended, lol. I just disagree.

[Scoot McGroot]

I disagree.

No offense but this would be a terrible way to run a franchise. If you can get a 1st for RW3 you do it and don't look back. Just waive GP2, he never even has to get on the plane to POR.

I am not offended, lol. I just disagree.

Are you saying you personally wouldn't do it? Or are you saying that management of Portland wouldn't do it? Because I agree with the others, Portland absolutely would and just would waive any physical on Payton and waive him as part of the trade. If you get a 1st for RW3, you don't care a bit about the salary matching. OKC took on Kevin Porter Jr and just waived him as part of the trade. And KPJ actually did something horrible.

GM's can actually look past this stuff if it helps their teams and themselves. They're greedy like that. And if they can't, they get fired ASAP for cause.

[JRoy]

No offense but this would be a terrible way to run a franchise. If you can get a 1st for RW3 you do it and don't look back. Just waive GP2, he never even has to get on the plane to POR.

I am not offended, lol. I just disagree.

Are you saying you personally wouldn't do it? Or are you saying that management of Portland wouldn't do it? Because I agree with the others, Portland absolutely would and just would waive any physical on Payton and waive him as part of the trade. If you get a 1st for RW3, you don't care a bit about the salary matching. OKC took on Kevin Porter Jr and just waived him as part of the trade. And KPJ actually did something horrible.

GM's can actually look past this stuff if it helps their teams and themselves. They're greedy like that. And if they can't, they get fired ASAP for cause.

I think the value is fine, great really.

I am saying that GP and his agent really $?!& the bed when he got traded back to GSW. I don’t think GMs forget that kind of thing. They are greedy but they are also proud.

[Scoot McGroot]

I am not offended, lol. I just disagree.

Are you saying you personally wouldn't do it? Or are you saying that management of Portland wouldn't do it? Because I agree with the others, Portland absolutely would and just would waive any physical on Payton and waive him as part of the trade. If you get a 1st for RW3, you don't care a bit about the salary matching. OKC took on Kevin Porter Jr and just waived him as part of the trade. And KPJ actually did something horrible.

GM's can actually look past this stuff if it helps their teams and themselves. They're greedy like that. And if they can't, they get fired ASAP for cause.

I think the value is fine, great really.

I am saying that GP and his agent really $?!& the bed when he got traded back to GSW. I don’t think GMs forget that kind of thing. They are greedy but they are also proud.

More greedy than proud. And, they'd get to put a bit of a "death knell" in Payton's career. Once he's a midseason/buyout waiver guy, it's hard to lose that "stink" in free agency, and he is likely stuck as a vet minimum guy for the rest of his career. Look at what's happened to Russ Westbrook these last couple offseasons.

[JRoy]

Are you saying you personally wouldn't do it? Or are you saying that management of Portland wouldn't do it? Because I agree with the others, Portland absolutely would and just would waive any physical on Payton and waive him as part of the trade. If you get a 1st for RW3, you don't care a bit about the salary matching. OKC took on Kevin Porter Jr and just waived him as part of the trade. And KPJ actually did something horrible.

GM's can actually look past this stuff if it helps their teams and themselves. They're greedy like that. And if they can't, they get fired ASAP for cause.

I think the value is fine, great really.

I am saying that GP and his agent really $?!& the bed when he got traded back to GSW. I don’t think GMs forget that kind of thing. They are greedy but they are also proud.

More greedy than proud. And, they'd get to put a bit of a "death knell" in Payton's career. Once he's a midseason/buyout waiver guy, it's hard to lose that "stink" in free agency, and he is likely stuck as a vet minimum guy for the rest of his career. Look at what's happened to Russ Westbrook these last couple offseasons.

That’s a good point. You might be right.

[Lucky Once]

Something like Jonas Valanciunas for GPII + lowering the protections on the 2030 pick could make some sense.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Size could help, but it wasn't the size that killed them. It was the self inflicted turnovers.

[gswhoops]

Something like Jonas Valanciunas for GPII + lowering the protections on the 2030 pick could make some sense.

If December 15 rolls around and it's looking like a lack of a true C is holding us back, I'd probably lower the protections on the pick from top-20 to lotto? But that's about all I'd offer.

[NW]

Something like Jonas Valanciunas for GPII + lowering the protections on the 2030 pick could make some sense.

Don't mind it from a value perspective, depending on how much the protection is lowered, but Warriors in more of consolidation trade. This trade gives them Jonas, Looney and TJD for not enough accommodating minutes.

[gswhoops]

Something like Jonas Valanciunas for GPII + lowering the protections on the 2030 pick could make some sense.

Don't mind it from a value perspective, depending on how much the protection is lowered, but Warriors in more of consolidation trade. This trade gives them Jonas, Looney and TJD for not enough accommodating minutes.

I assume Looney would probably be a lux tax dump in a separate deal.

[NW]

Something like Jonas Valanciunas for GPII + lowering the protections on the 2030 pick could make some sense.

Don't mind it from a value perspective, depending on how much the protection is lowered, but Warriors in more of consolidation trade. This trade gives them Jonas, Looney and TJD for not enough accommodating minutes.

I assume Looney would probably be a lux tax dump in a separate deal.

Doubt Looney would be a Lux tax dump