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Re: Huerter for your teams forward 

Post#61 » by Jkam31 » Thu Nov 7, 2024 6:38 am

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What the hell is this take lmao. I really cannot understand it at all. It's not based in any reality.

Seriously. I don’t know what the hell BoogieTime is watching. It’s as ludicrous as him saying to stop revisiting Jonathan Isaac trades despite him being a terrific fit at PF next to Sabonis.


What the coach is watching.

He was bad in SL/preseason, to the tune that he probably would have remained in the starting lineup to start the season had he not looked so bad. Than Huerter started

Not been a Huerter fan, but the starting lineup has been hitting so far with him and he's had a solid year


He was but he’s been good in the regular season that’s a fact
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Re: Huerter for your teams forward 

Post#62 » by BoogieTime » Thu Nov 7, 2024 10:48 am

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bpcox05 wrote:Seriously. I don’t know what the hell BoogieTime is watching. It’s as ludicrous as him saying to stop revisiting Jonathan Isaac trades despite him being a terrific fit at PF next to Sabonis.


What the coach is watching.

He was bad in SL/preseason, to the tune that he probably would have remained in the starting lineup to start the season had he not looked so bad. Than Huerter started

Not been a Huerter fan, but the starting lineup has been hitting so far with him and he's had a solid year


He was but he’s been good in the regular season that’s a fact


Granted. I wanted McLaughlin to take those bench minutes and Keon been making me eat my words on that so far.

But how bad that starting unit looked in preseason (which was the impetus for the change - had it looked ok Brown still would've went with Keon starting with Kevin's lengthy injury imo), coupled with it being one of the best statistical units with Kevin, makes me not want to mess with the rotation of Huerter starting as is. The team has needed better bench production, and I like Kevin's offensive prowess starting at this point.
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Re: Huerter for your teams forward 

Post#63 » by doogie_hauser » Thu Nov 7, 2024 10:48 am

Huerter would be a decent addition to the Knicks bench.

Don't think the Knicks have any realistic assets the Kings would want though.
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Re: Huerter for your teams forward 

Post#64 » by bpcox05 » Thu Nov 7, 2024 9:44 pm

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What the coach is watching.

He was bad in SL/preseason, to the tune that he probably would have remained in the starting lineup to start the season had he not looked so bad. Than Huerter started

Not been a Huerter fan, but the starting lineup has been hitting so far with him and he's had a solid year


He was but he’s been good in the regular season that’s a fact


Granted. I wanted McLaughlin to take those bench minutes and Keon been making me eat my words on that so far.

But how bad that starting unit looked in preseason (which was the impetus for the change - had it looked ok Brown still would've went with Keon starting with Kevin's lengthy injury imo), coupled with it being one of the best statistical units with Kevin, makes me not want to mess with the rotation of Huerter starting as is. The team has needed better bench production, and I like Kevin's offensive prowess starting at this point.

You’re leaning on preseason? We have regular season games from last year and this year to reference. For instance, the starters with Ellis this year are producing a +44.3 NETRTG; whereas, the starters with Huerter this year are producing a +14.3 NETRTG.

Admittedly, Ellis is not the movement shooter Huerter is, but he is still a really good shooter. However, I feel like the defensive gap between the two is quite large. The starters with Ellis makes a lot more sense and is a natural fit considering the usage of guys like Fox, DeRozan, and Sabonis.
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Re: Huerter for your teams forward 

Post#65 » by BoogieTime » Fri Nov 8, 2024 2:17 am

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He was but he’s been good in the regular season that’s a fact


Granted. I wanted McLaughlin to take those bench minutes and Keon been making me eat my words on that so far.

But how bad that starting unit looked in preseason (which was the impetus for the change - had it looked ok Brown still would've went with Keon starting with Kevin's lengthy injury imo), coupled with it being one of the best statistical units with Kevin, makes me not want to mess with the rotation of Huerter starting as is. The team has needed better bench production, and I like Kevin's offensive prowess starting at this point.

You’re leaning on preseason? We have regular season games from last year and this year to reference. For instance, the starters with Ellis this year are producing a +44.3 NETRTG; whereas, the starters with Huerter this year are producing a +14.3 NETRTG.

Admittedly, Ellis is not the movement shooter Huerter is, but he is still a really good shooter. However, I feel like the defensive gap between the two is quite large. The starters with Ellis makes a lot more sense and is a natural fit considering the usage of guys like Fox, DeRozan, and Sabonis.


The unit with Keon hasn't played that many regular season minutes yet, fewer than the preseason games.

I'm just saying Keon's place in the starting unit has mirrored how ive though about him (and mirrored Brown).

I was high on him after last year's performance, hoped he would round out, and expected him to start this year. I was also not really a fan of Huerter. Keon was pretty bad in the latter half of SL. Then the unit in preseason was running into each other, not playing with clarity, and Keon was bad. I noted this in the Kings forum that Keon's play made Brown start Huerter, which he subsequently did.

Now Keon has been playing well recently. And if those minutes your referencing start getting more than the few they are now with that net rating my opinion might change

But even last year with Keon's defensive impact, I believe the starting unit was better statistically with Kevin. Which speaks to how under assuming his bbiq is
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Post#66 » by scoobs07 » Sun Nov 10, 2024 7:38 pm

Lakers have Rui, but would probably want a more defensive-minded guard than Huerter. If a third team might be interested in Huerter for a defensive guard, there could be something there.
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Re: Huerter for your teams forward 

Post#67 » by penbeast0 » Mon Nov 11, 2024 6:01 pm

Walton1one wrote:You want Grant, You need Grant, he can be had for Huerter\Lyles, a future 1st and a couple of future 2nd's.....
We'll even throw in a b\u center, Reath...

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If that's available, you might take that. If not, Huerter/Lyles and a protected 1st should get you Kyle Kuzma whose been rumored going to Sacramento for the last two years. Huerter is just salary matching, so the negotiation would be around the first.
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Re: Huerter for your teams forward 

Post#68 » by Jkam31 » Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:22 pm

penbeast0 wrote:
Walton1one wrote:You want Grant, You need Grant, he can be had for Huerter\Lyles, a future 1st and a couple of future 2nd's.....
We'll even throw in a b\u center, Reath...

:D


If that's available, you might take that. If not, Huerter/Lyles and a protected 1st should get you Kyle Kuzma whose been rumored going to Sacramento for the last two years. Huerter is just salary matching, so the negotiation would be around the first.


Kuzma would have to come off the bench he’d still get 33-35mpg but he can’t start unless he’s gonna go back to his LA days of defense and be satisfied with 10 shots. Off the bench he can take turns with monk killing teams and closing games but nba players have low IQ’s and think starting matters so who knows
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Re: Huerter for your teams forward 

Post#69 » by babyjax13 » Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:28 pm

Trading Huerter, filler, and a first for Kuzma might be as poor of a decision as trading a 1st for Huerter.
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Post#70 » by LightTheBeam » Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:41 pm

babyjax13 wrote:Trading Huerter, filler, and a first for Kuzma might be as poor of a decision as trading a 1st for Huerter.


Thank you for stating the obvious.

Honestly 4 pages of this thread brings me back to DFS. But it sounds like Nets fans don't like Huerter. Only other one that makes sense for both teams is something around Nance and Huerter.

I don't see anything else that really makes sense. But I truly hope that Monte doesn't make a dumb decision like dumping more picks into guys like Kuzma or Grant.
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Re: Huerter for your teams forward 

Post#71 » by DarkXaero » Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:22 pm

Not sure who told kings fans that DFS is "cooked" but he's in fact not "cooked" and he's a great role guy for any contender out there. That being said nets would have no real interest in Huerter so you have to entice with proper draft capital

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Re: Huerter for your teams forward 

Post#72 » by Jkam31 » Wed Nov 13, 2024 2:55 am

Huerter/Jones/McLaughlin/1st/2nd

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Grant Williams/Cody Martin

We’d turn Huerter into two 3D fowards on good contracts. Grant can start play 26-28mpg and take pressure off Keegan so he wouldn’t have to defend wings, guards, and centers all game. Martin adds depth which we need and still has another year on his deal
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Post#73 » by Jkam31 » Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:57 pm

John Collins is having a hell of a year the pick and roll game with monk off the bench would be amazing and our bench desperately needs his scoring.
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Re: Huerter for your teams forward 

Post#74 » by babyjax13 » Sat Nov 30, 2024 7:19 am

Jkam31 wrote:John Collins is having a hell of a year the pick and roll game with monk off the bench would be amazing and our bench desperately needs his scoring.

I'd want a third team to take Huerter. We don't need another guard and I just don't want to have to watch Huerter. But yah, could be something there.
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Post#75 » by Skybox » Sat Nov 30, 2024 3:01 pm

There's a lot of Huerter trades here...preferably for guys that can shoot and defend...why would another team trade for a shooter who can't defend and, this year, also can't shoot?

I don't mean to be a smartass - I haven't seen SAC games this year. Is Huerter doing something special that doesn't show up in the stats? Because the stats are dismal for him.
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Re: Huerter for your teams forward 

Post#76 » by BoogieTime » Sat Nov 30, 2024 8:53 pm

Skybox wrote:There's a lot of Huerter trades here...preferably for guys that can shoot and defend...why would another team trade for a shooter who can't defend and, this year, also can't shoot?

I don't mean to be a smartass - I haven't seen SAC games this year. Is Huerter doing something special that doesn't show up in the stats? Because the stats are dismal for him.


He's trended more to mediocre than bad defensively, but he's a head case now. I defended him to start the season, but now he just needs to be moved for another underperforming player without a bigger contract who also needs a corresponding break from their current team
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Re: Huerter for your teams forward 

Post#77 » by MasterIchiro » Sun Dec 1, 2024 8:36 pm

Grant Williams for Huerter.
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Post#78 » by Jkam31 » Sun Dec 1, 2024 9:01 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:Grant Williams for Huerter.

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He’s not even playing
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Re: Huerter for your teams forward 

Post#79 » by MasterIchiro » Sun Dec 1, 2024 10:02 pm

Jkam31 wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:Grant Williams for Huerter.

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He’s not even playing


Neutral for negative impact. This is good?
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