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Cleveland/Atlanta 

Post#1 » by bgrep14 » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:07 pm

Cleveland: Struss, Tyson, Niang, Travers, and Thompson

Atlanta: Hunter and Nance

Cavs add wing depth

Atlanta adds a couple younger guys one of which was 1st team summer league this year as a rookie, and a couple floor spacers that can play next to Trey without the ball.
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Re: Cleveland/Atlanta 

Post#2 » by toooskies » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:20 pm

I prefer Strus to Hunter straight-up and would not trade all the Cavs' NBA-caliber development pieces for Nance.
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Re: Cleveland/Atlanta 

Post#3 » by Scoot McGroot » Sat Dec 7, 2024 5:13 pm

bgrep14 wrote:Cleveland: Struss, Tyson, Niang, Travers, and Thompson

Atlanta: Hunter and Nance

Cavs add wing depth

Atlanta adds a couple younger guys one of which was 1st team summer league this year as a rookie, and a couple floor spacers that can play next to Trey without the ball.


I would recommend you leave two way players out of trades. They provide no salary matching (they count as $0 in salary trades), and it makes it difficult that the other team has to waive a two way player before completing the trade, and teams generally like their two way players better than other teams two way players.

I don’t think we’ve seen many, if any two way player trades at all, let alone a two way player traded into a team without the other team sending a two way player back. Teams would just waive the two way player and allow them to sign a new two way contract elsewhere if that was so desired.
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Re: Cleveland/Atlanta 

Post#4 » by Godaddycurse » Sat Dec 7, 2024 5:44 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:
bgrep14 wrote:Cleveland: Struss, Tyson, Niang, Travers, and Thompson

Atlanta: Hunter and Nance

Cavs add wing depth

Atlanta adds a couple younger guys one of which was 1st team summer league this year as a rookie, and a couple floor spacers that can play next to Trey without the ball.


I would recommend you leave two way players out of trades. They provide no salary matching (they count as $0 in salary trades), and it makes it difficult that the other team has to waive a two way player before completing the trade, and teams generally like their two way players better than other teams two way players.

I don’t think we’ve seen many, if any two way player trades at all, let alone a two way player traded into a team without the other team sending a two way player back. Teams would just waive the two way player and allow them to sign a new two way contract elsewhere if that was so desired.


do you have to wait to trade after converting a 2 way player to a standard contract?
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Re: Cleveland/Atlanta 

Post#5 » by Scoot McGroot » Sat Dec 7, 2024 6:12 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:
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bgrep14 wrote:Cleveland: Struss, Tyson, Niang, Travers, and Thompson

Atlanta: Hunter and Nance

Cavs add wing depth

Atlanta adds a couple younger guys one of which was 1st team summer league this year as a rookie, and a couple floor spacers that can play next to Trey without the ball.


I would recommend you leave two way players out of trades. They provide no salary matching (they count as $0 in salary trades), and it makes it difficult that the other team has to waive a two way player before completing the trade, and teams generally like their two way players better than other teams two way players.

I don’t think we’ve seen many, if any two way player trades at all, let alone a two way player traded into a team without the other team sending a two way player back. Teams would just waive the two way player and allow them to sign a new two way contract elsewhere if that was so desired.


do you have to wait to trade after converting a 2 way player to a standard contract?



You can’t convert a player until he’s under contract with your team, so you’d have to waive a two way to take in Travers to fill that 2 way, and then you could immediately convert him, but would still have to waive a guy to take him in. Just like how you can’t waive a player you trade for until he’s on your roster, so you’d have to clear the roster spot before the trade.
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Re: Cleveland/Atlanta 

Post#6 » by Godaddycurse » Sat Dec 7, 2024 6:13 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:
I would recommend you leave two way players out of trades. They provide no salary matching (they count as $0 in salary trades), and it makes it difficult that the other team has to waive a two way player before completing the trade, and teams generally like their two way players better than other teams two way players.

I don’t think we’ve seen many, if any two way player trades at all, let alone a two way player traded into a team without the other team sending a two way player back. Teams would just waive the two way player and allow them to sign a new two way contract elsewhere if that was so desired.


do you have to wait to trade after converting a 2 way player to a standard contract?



You can’t convert a player until he’s under contract with your team, so you’d have to waive a two way to take in Travers to fill that 2 way, and then you could immediately convert him, but would still have to waive a guy to take him in. Just like how you can’t waive a player you trade for until he’s on your roster, so you’d have to clear the roster spot before the trade.


i meant can cleveland in this case convert travers to a standard contract (lets say to use as salary matching or something) and then trade him right away or do they have to wait
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Re: Cleveland/Atlanta 

Post#7 » by Ball4life32 » Sat Dec 7, 2024 6:26 pm

toooskies wrote:I prefer Strus to Hunter straight-up and would not trade all the Cavs' NBA-caliber development pieces for Nance.

Hunter right now at 19 ppg+ on 65 TS% as the 6th man shooting over 43% from 3 on good volume. He’s certainly not available. Much better off the bench playing 28 mpg if he can stay healthy.
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Re: Cleveland/Atlanta 

Post#8 » by Scoot McGroot » Sat Dec 7, 2024 7:47 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
do you have to wait to trade after converting a 2 way player to a standard contract?



You can’t convert a player until he’s under contract with your team, so you’d have to waive a two way to take in Travers to fill that 2 way, and then you could immediately convert him, but would still have to waive a guy to take him in. Just like how you can’t waive a player you trade for until he’s on your roster, so you’d have to clear the roster spot before the trade.


i meant can cleveland in this case convert travers to a standard contract (lets say to use as salary matching or something) and then trade him right away or do they have to wait


Ah, my bad.

No, a player can’t be traded for 3 months after being converted to a standard contract.
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Post#9 » by jbk1234 » Sat Dec 7, 2024 10:26 pm

The Cavs don't do this due to the roster construction/financial issues that would arise next summer as has been pointed out repeatedly.
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