Best offer for Anthony Edwards

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Re: Best offer for Anthony Edwards 

Post#61 » by esvl » Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:47 pm

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Re: Best offer for Anthony Edwards 

Post#62 » by Ducklett » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:13 pm

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shangrila wrote: Please don't use him to represent the rest of us.


As a rule, we do need to let each poster represent only themselves. Frequently a fanbase shares a similar opinion on their players, but far from always. And even within that, there will be distinctions.

Goodness knows my fellow little Mavs fans don't want me speaking for them. I'm still on Josh Green Island. :wink:


I think your fellow Mavs fans may have left you on the island LOST style!

I find it curious that the OP described Antman as a poison and that Magic fans want to trade the antidote (Suggs) for him. Many a Magic player has said in interviews that they see the way that Suggs puts it on the line and that makes them want to play hard not to let him down. Goga says it's because he is a wolf, for example. If you were bring in a questionable personality to your very high chemistry team, trading the heart sounds like a good way to brick the whole team.

That certainly isn't to say Suggs is worth more than Anta Claus.
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Re: Best offer for Anthony Edwards 

Post#63 » by Ell Curry » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:55 pm

It's not as dumb a thread as it looks because Edwards could ask out at some point.

As a Raptors fan, if we won the lottery we'd have the #1 pick to offer, along with everything short of Barnes. Chose to include a 3rd team to make it work, so let's say:

Minnesota - RJ Barrett, Quickley, Grady Dick, and the following 5 picks, all unprotected unless otherwise specificed: 2025, 2026 (Indiana, it's top 4 protected), 2027, 2029, 2031 firsts and swaps in 2026, 2028 and 2030,

Toronto - Anthony Edwards, Mike Conley, Luka Garza

Run out Conley-Edwards-Agbaji-Barnes-Poeltl with a bench of Walter-Mogbo-Olynyk and then the Raptors can probably just about squeeze in re-signing Bruce Brown and use the non-tax MLE on a backup PG, SF or backup 5. Still have their own 2026 1st to use and hopefully get a PG of the future with that pick I guess. Masai's specialty has been finding bench players on the cheap (apart from a poor 2-3 year run where we got guys like Baynes, Len, McDaniels and Banton instead of the guys OKC found like Hartenstein and Wiggins).

Don't like it for Minnesota.

In terms of real trades, it feels like it's gotta be Utah to get your picks back so you can tank, along with the Utah 2025 1st and say Cody Williams and Filipowski and Utah still has say Sexton-Edwards-Markannen-Kessler as a core 4 and Cleveland picks and their previous picks (Keyonte George, Hendricks and their remaining 2 firsts in this draft) to build a bench, assuming say Clarkson and Collins are the salaries in the deal, and they can sign a passable starting forward with the non-tax MLE, maybe a Finney-Smith, Bruce Brown or Nickeil Alexander-Walker.

Then Minnesota can move Gobert to say Detroit and maybe get back whichever of Ron Holland or Ausar Thompson the Pistons are lower on along with Isaiah Stewart and Hardaway JR (or Fontecchio and Reed if it's this summer) or something like that. Gobert for Capela, Nance and a 1st also makes some sense for both teams, and maybe you can squeeze out another first or decent prospect in some convoluted trade where say Houston gets Capela for Adams and Landale and either Whitmore or a protected first and some team that needs a shooting big gets Nance for a bunch of 2nds (and maybe one goes to Houston), like I don't know Memphis.

Minnesota builds around the Utah 2025 pick, Dillingham, McDaniels, Cody Williams, Filipowski, Miller, Minott, Shannon, their picks back and whatever they get for DeVincenzo as soon as he gets hot and rebuilds his value or a suitor appears. Basically they're Washington now but with Cooper Flagg or Dylan Harper as their main piece to build around.
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Re: Best offer for Anthony Edwards 

Post#64 » by Texas Chuck » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:05 pm

Ell Curry wrote:It's not as dumb a thread as it looks because Edwards could ask out at some point.
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Not saying the thread is dumb, but understand any player could ask out. You might not think a Scottie Barnes thread was good if someone said well he might ask out at some point. And Edwards was just in the conference finals and Toronto has no obvious path back there. So it would be more reasonable for Barnes, right?
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Re: Best offer for Anthony Edwards 

Post#65 » by KembaWalker » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:06 pm

Ell Curry wrote:It's not as dumb a thread as it looks because Edwards could ask out at some point.

As a Raptors fan, if we won the lottery we'd have the #1 pick to offer, along with everything short of Barnes. Chose to include a 3rd team to make it work, so let's say:

Minnesota - RJ Barrett, Quickley, Grady Dick, and the following 5 picks, all unprotected unless otherwise specificed: 2025, 2026 (Indiana, it's top 4 protected), 2027, 2029, 2031 firsts and swaps in 2026, 2028 and 2030,

Toronto - Anthony Edwards, Mike Conley, Luka Garza

Run out Conley-Edwards-Agbaji-Barnes-Poeltl with a bench of Walter-Mogbo-Olynyk and then the Raptors can probably just about squeeze in re-signing Bruce Brown and use the non-tax MLE on a backup PG, SF or backup 5. Still have their own 2026 1st to use and hopefully get a PG of the future with that pick I guess. Masai's specialty has been finding bench players on the cheap (apart from a poor 2-3 year run where we got guys like Baynes, Len, McDaniels and Banton instead of the guys OKC found like Hartenstein and Wiggins).

Don't like it for Minnesota.

In terms of real trades, it feels like it's gotta be Utah to get your picks back so you can tank, along with the Utah 2025 1st and say Cody Williams and Filipowski and Utah still has say Sexton-Edwards-Markannen-Kessler as a core 4 and Cleveland picks and their previous picks (Keyonte George, Hendricks and their remaining 2 firsts in this draft) to build a bench, assuming say Clarkson and Collins are the salaries in the deal, and they can sign a passable starting forward with the non-tax MLE, maybe a Finney-Smith, Bruce Brown or Nickeil Alexander-Walker.

Then Minnesota can move Gobert to say Detroit and maybe get back whichever of Ron Holland or Ausar Thompson the Pistons are lower on along with Isaiah Stewart and Hardaway JR (or Fontecchio and Reed if it's this summer) or something like that. Gobert for Capela, Nance and a 1st also makes some sense for both teams, and maybe you can squeeze out another first or decent prospect in some convoluted trade where say Houston gets Capela for Adams and Landale and either Whitmore or a protected first and some team that needs a shooting big gets Nance for a bunch of 2nds (and maybe one goes to Houston), like I don't know Memphis.

Minnesota builds around the Utah 2025 pick, Dillingham, McDaniels, Cody Williams, Filipowski, Miller, Minott, Shannon, their picks back and whatever they get for DeVincenzo as soon as he gets hot and rebuilds his value or a suitor appears. Basically they're Washington now but with Cooper Flagg or Dylan Harper as their main piece to build around.


personally I'd gamble on Cooper Flagg and happily take another swing later if he busted than be locked in with Anthony Edwards. including all that other stuff with him is crazy. Even if Coop doesn't pan out as an alpha dog or whatever, I'd happy take him as tertiary guy and seek my top guy through another avenue than trying to find guys to work with Ant/Barnes with no assets left on my team for the next decade.
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Re: Best offer for Anthony Edwards 

Post#66 » by wegotthabeet » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:41 pm

JMAC3 wrote:This is such a vanity thread...

Tell me your best player, so I can say Edwards is actually worth more...


You forgot “while pretending to dislike him”.

If they move him I feel like he is the type to want to have a say in where he ends up otherwise it would be disastrous for the team trading for him. That list is probably five or six teams deep at most.
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Re: Best offer for Anthony Edwards 

Post#67 » by Klomp » Thu Dec 12, 2024 5:10 am

Until we see where Cooper Flagg will go, I think Atlanta is basically the only realistic option at the moment.

1. Send him to the East
2. Sending him home wouldn't burn bridges around the league
3. Hawks have star pieces that could keep ATL competitive after a depth-depleting trade (Young, Johnson) while having a boatload of attractive young pieces that could interest Minnesota in said trade (Risacher, Okongwu, Daniels)
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Re: Best offer for Anthony Edwards 

Post#68 » by TheProfessor » Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:01 am

JustBuzzin wrote:Brandon Miller + 4 1st Rd picks

I think this the winner. 4 picks from a historically poor franchise + a Blue Chip prospect. I would do it if I was Minni
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Re: Best offer for Anthony Edwards 

Post#69 » by Slim Charless » Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:18 am

Klomp wrote:Until we see where Cooper Flagg will go, I think Atlanta is basically the only realistic option at the moment.

1. Send him to the East
2. Sending him home wouldn't burn bridges around the league
3. Hawks have star pieces that could keep ATL competitive after a depth-depleting trade (Young, Johnson) while having a boatload of attractive young pieces that could interest Minnesota in said trade (Risacher, Okongwu, Daniels)


I agree about sending him east as in the west you don't want that trouble of him coming back to haunt every playoff year. But I think that ORL makes sense as does BRK. The Magic in particular as they can move youth in Black+Howard+De Silva along with a legit piece you guys can build around in either Franz or Paulo. Magic fans will no doubt be in here quoting me and telling me that both guys are better than Ant...but they'll be wrong. Plus they'd keep Suggs and those 2 will make a fearsome backcourt for the next 10 years. They also have some picks to balance it out. That'd be my 1st call as the Minny GM-if this happens (which it won't)

The Nets have a ton of picks and can either do a 3way for another player Minny might want, or just send Cams Jo and Thomas along with Clowney. Or whoever the Wolves want as the Nets would sell it all to have as star like Ant in the building.

Dark horse is the Jazz who have a ton of stuff and need a consolidation trade here in the next year or so. They'd be probably nervous about keeping Ant there but at least he's locked up for another 4 years this summer.
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Re: Best offer for Anthony Edwards 

Post#70 » by shangrila » Thu Dec 12, 2024 8:38 am

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Texas Chuck wrote:
shangrila wrote: Please don't use him to represent the rest of us.


As a rule, we do need to let each poster represent only themselves. Frequently a fanbase shares a similar opinion on their players, but far from always. And even within that, there will be distinctions.

Goodness knows my fellow little Mavs fans don't want me speaking for them. I'm still on Josh Green Island. :wink:


I think your fellow Mavs fans may have left you on the island LOST style!

I find it curious that the OP described Antman as a poison and that Magic fans want to trade the antidote (Suggs) for him. Many a Magic player has said in interviews that they see the way that Suggs puts it on the line and that makes them want to play hard not to let him down. Goga says it's because he is a wolf, for example. If you were bring in a questionable personality to your very high chemistry team, trading the heart sounds like a good way to brick the whole team.

That certainly isn't to say Suggs is worth more than Anta Claus.

Ant is the heart of this team, please ignore OP.

The only poison associated with this team is our bipolar fanbase.
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Re: Best offer for Anthony Edwards 

Post#71 » by Ducklett » Thu Dec 12, 2024 9:26 am

shangrila wrote:
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Texas Chuck wrote:
As a rule, we do need to let each poster represent only themselves. Frequently a fanbase shares a similar opinion on their players, but far from always. And even within that, there will be distinctions.

Goodness knows my fellow little Mavs fans don't want me speaking for them. I'm still on Josh Green Island. :wink:


I think your fellow Mavs fans may have left you on the island LOST style!

I find it curious that the OP described Antman as a poison and that Magic fans want to trade the antidote (Suggs) for him. Many a Magic player has said in interviews that they see the way that Suggs puts it on the line and that makes them want to play hard not to let him down. Goga says it's because he is a wolf, for example. If you were bring in a questionable personality to your very high chemistry team, trading the heart sounds like a good way to brick the whole team.

That certainly isn't to say Suggs is worth more than Anta Claus.

Ant is the heart of this team, please ignore OP.

The only poison associated with this team is our bipolar fanbase.


I am just giving my opinion based on the OP's theory. I don't mean to equate his opinion to you or any other T-Woof fan.
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Re: Best offer for Anthony Edwards 

Post#72 » by babyjax13 » Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:06 pm

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Not even close. You don’t have an Ant trade without a guy like SGA, Wemby, in the conversation. This is a 23 year old Ant under team control for 5 years at really good rate compared to how maxes are gonna start looking. Again this is not a joke or rebuild thread.

Well SGA and Wemby are much more valuable than Ant, don't think they are realistic. If Minnesota looks to move him there is a good chance they get worse, not better, so the rebuilding package of prospect(s) and pick(s) is probably what would be on offer.
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Re: Best offer for Anthony Edwards 

Post#73 » by babyjax13 » Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:13 pm

For Utah, I'd offer all the picks we have control of...this would be something like:

2025 - Highest of MIN/CLE/UTA 1st conveyed to UTA (OKC has a small chance at our pick) + second highest of those picks conveyed to UT
2026 - UTA 1st (unless conveyed to OKC)
2027 - highest 2 of MIN/CLE/UTA/LAL 1st conveyed to UT (chance only three convey and the 2026 1st conveys to MIN, so can only be 2)
2028 - UTA/CLE 1st (higher)
2029 - UTA + CLE + MIN (protected) 1sts
2030 - pick swap
2031 - UTA 1st

Then a combination of filler and raw prospects ... so, something like Hendricks + George + Williams + Sensabaugh + Collier + Filipowski + Clarkson

which leaves Utah at:

Kessler/Collins/Eubanks
Collins/???/Lauri
Lauri/???
Edwards/Clarkson
Sexton/Mills
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