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Re: DEN/TOR 

Post#21 » by Thaddy » Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:29 pm

Extending to a 3 team trade.

Boucher + Temple to Denver.

Saric + 2nds to Toronto.

Holmes to the 3rd team for 2nds.
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Re: DEN/TOR 

Post#22 » by Mr Swagtastic » Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:52 am

Godaddycurse wrote:
BelgradeNugget wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Imo there are better targets for Denver.

But Nnaji, Saric, 2030 swap top 4 prot for Boucher would be a good way to get an upside pick for Toronto.

This makes more sense...make it a top 10 protected 2030 swap.


nobody is eating about 30M of dead money after this year for a top 10 protected swap


how the hell did Zeke's camp finesse Denver to get that deal? I don't see Toronto wanting to waste $8-$10 million a year over the next 3 for him. I don't see the fit here like is he a 12th-13th man off the bench? I get the swap but your banking on Denver being worse than Denver at that time and I don't see how Jokic isn't still in the top 10.

As for the original deal I get Denver loved Holmes predraft and camp but right now I don't see how Toronto wants to rehab him At this point I would just take a useless expiring and second(s) for him
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Re: DEN/TOR 

Post#23 » by islandboy53 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:44 am

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TheProfessor wrote:Denver in: Chris Boucher+Garrett Temple
Denver out: Dario Saric+ DeRon Holmes+ filler (Cancar/Deandre Jordon)

Reportedly, Denver seems interested in Boucher. Denver gets there guy while getting off Dario Saric's player option, a Corpse or end of bench player and an injured rookie.

Raptors in: Dario Saric+DeRon Holmes+filler (Cancar/Deandre Jordon)
Raptors out: Boucher+ Garrett Temple

Raptors embrace the tank harder and start the sell off, while getting a former first round pick to help the rebuild and only taking on 5m next year.

This trade can be done with or without Garrett Temple, and requires Cancar or Deandre Jordon to sign off. Can be subbed with Pickett or Tyson if needed.


Denver is 1st apron hard capped and needs to send out more salary than it brings back. With Saric & Holmes, that means 2 more end of bench/minimum guys. That's leaving Temple out of the equation. Toronto is thus doing a 1 for 4, which means waiving Temple and someone else to accommodate the trade, which seems unlikely. The only realistic way for Denver to acquire Boucher is by making Nnaji the main outgoing piece, which in turn means Toronto takes on his remaining 3 years/$24 million (including player option). Denver has nothing to incentivize Toronto to do this beyond Holmes. Nnaji may get back on track in new surroundings, and Holmes may make a full recovery and eventually become the player Denver thought he might be. It's tempting to go this route, but getting expiring salary and a 2nd or 2 for Boucher sounds like a better plan to me.


Deandre Jordan makes 3.3m and can be used as filler, so it would be a 3 for 1 trade. We can waive Temple; he is 38 years old. He may be dead by the time the Raptors are ready to compete.


Jordan's salary for cap purposes is $2.1 million. You'll need a 4th salary, unless you think Denver will include Peyton Watson.
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Re: DEN/TOR 

Post#24 » by islandboy53 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:55 am

Thaddy wrote:Extending to a 3 team trade.

Boucher + Temple to Denver.

Saric + 2nds to Toronto.

Holmes to the 3rd team for 2nds.


Outgoing salary for Denver still doesn't work. Boucher, $10.8 million, plus Temple, $2.1 million gives Denver $12.9 million incoming. They have to send out at least that much. Saric at $5.1 million plus Holmes at $3 million is not enough.

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