Kyle Kuzma

[Ell Curry]

(Picks need to be added. Knicks give up for sure. I think Wizards come out ahead too (Brogdon and Kuzma no real market, maybe you get a 2nd or 2 at most, this saves them 20M after next year's final hard "let's win 15 games" tank of a season), so I guess the Wiz and Knicks sending stuff to Minny, can debate what).

Wizards: Randle + Conley + Precious
Minnesota: Kuzma + Brogdon + Washington + NYK picks
Knicks: Nickeil Alexander-Walker


Minnesota seems to be going nowhere, and they might lose NAW this summer. This way they get a first probably save some money next year (re-sign Brogdon or tax MLE a Conley replacement, still cheaper than Randle + Conley) they can use on Naz Reid:

Gobert-Miller
NazReid-Kuzma-Miller
McDaniels-Minott
Edwards-DDV
Brogdon-Dillingham

and they get some draft equity, maybe they can move that and Kuzma for a backup 5 or a starting PG, whichever they can't add otherwise, or just draft a Gobert backup they need today (so he doesn't age too fast) and replacement they'll need soon enough in any case.

Wizards tank again next year obviously, and this saves them 20M in 2026-27 when they might want to actually spend some money after adding 2 more top 5 picks to their young "core" of Sarr, Coulibaly, Carrington and Kispert. Maybe Randle can do some stuff and be moved at the next deadline for an expiring.

Knicks get a nice wing for the playoffs, maybe they can re-sign him if their ownership will pay. He's an upgrade at 6th man.

[gambitx777]

I would say a couple teams could use him.
LAC, Sac, suns , Bucks, pistons bulls.

Some of those teams would have a hard time trading for him.

Suns and Bucks would have a hard time trading for him. But could use him.

Sac, Bulls and pistons are in the play in hunt so it would be a flip if they really wanna make trades to further that goal.

LAC had at least a shot in the play offs and have the contracts to make that trade.

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[winforlose]

(Picks need to be added. Knicks give up for sure. I think Wizards come out ahead too (Brogdon and Kuzma no real market, maybe you get a 2nd or 2 at most, this saves them 20M after next year's final hard "let's win 15 games" tank of a season), so I guess the Wiz and Knicks sending stuff to Minny, can debate what).

Wizards: Randle + Conley + Precious
Minnesota: Kuzma + Brogdon + Washington + NYK picks
Knicks: Nickeil Alexander-Walker


Minnesota seems to be going nowhere, and they might lose NAW this summer. This way they get a first probably save some money next year (re-sign Brogdon or tax MLE a Conley replacement, still cheaper than Randle + Conley) they can use on Naz Reid:

Gobert-Miller
NazReid-Kuzma-Miller
McDaniels-Minott
Edwards-DDV
Brogdon-Dillingham

and they get some draft equity, maybe they can move that and Kuzma for a backup 5 or a starting PG, whichever they can't add otherwise, or just draft a Gobert backup they need today (so he doesn't age too fast) and replacement they'll need soon enough in any case.

Wizards tank again next year obviously, and this saves them 20M in 2026-27 when they might want to actually spend some money after adding 2 more top 5 picks to their young "core" of Sarr, Coulibaly, Carrington and Kispert. Maybe Randle can do some stuff and be moved at the next deadline for an expiring.

Knicks get a nice wing for the playoffs, maybe they can re-sign him if their ownership will pay. He's an upgrade at 6th man.

Let’s clean up two misconceptions for the Wolves moving forward.

1. The Wolves are not looking to add long term salary. To resign Naz and NAW they want Randle to opt out. If they take back a deal it would be a starting PG or a discount backup C. 2-4 we are stacked with young guys and Kuzma would be the very last player we add.

2. Mike Conley took a paycut to stay in Minnesota based on a promise he would not be traded. He does not want to move his kids and he doesn’t want to live away from them. We have promised Mike that he can retire a Wolf and I don’t see management breaking that promise. I also think that reputation for keeping promises is why Rudy and Naz both took discounts to stay and Naz will likely again with the promise to start over Randle after the trade deadline.

So to summarize, no money over 15 million except for a starting PG and no Mike Conley trades.

[Scoot McGroot]

(Picks need to be added. Knicks give up for sure. I think Wizards come out ahead too (Brogdon and Kuzma no real market, maybe you get a 2nd or 2 at most, this saves them 20M after next year's final hard "let's win 15 games" tank of a season), so I guess the Wiz and Knicks sending stuff to Minny, can debate what).

Wizards: Randle + Conley + Precious
Minnesota: Kuzma + Brogdon + Washington + NYK picks
Knicks: Nickeil Alexander-Walker

As a 2nd apron team, Minnesota can't aggregate, like they do here.

[HartfordWhalers]

The trade kicker is prorated right? So at this point kts likely only 8~ million spread over the three years? and Washington pay it?

Don’t think that’s much of a factor.
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It’s only be paid out on what he’s remaining to be paid. And it would increase his cap number on the books for cap/tax/apron calculations, too. Washington would pay the cash kicker, but any receiving team would have to account for the increase on their books.

Also worth remembering those unlikley incentives based on team performance. I didn't do a dig on what exactly they are, but team if based on team record it is very possible that they would become likely and add an extra 3m a year cap hit to a playoff team trading for him. (And a team like Chicago wouldn't have that issue based off not being a playoff team last year.)

[penbeast0]

Butler and Richardson for Kuzma, Brogdon, and Davis

Why on the sweet earth would the Wizards want malcontent Butler on their roster? We are trying to collect young talent and build a culture. Butler is as win now a player as anyone in the league.

[basketballwacko2]

Turn next years expiring into a bad money deal with an extra year. Pay 2nds to do it, plus raise the payroll even further with replacement minimum for JHS (I believe the Lakers have 15 players at present, minimum is 14.) Do you really think Kuzma is that much better than Rui to make it worth it?

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/player/_/id/31566/rui-hachimura

Personally? No. But i do think the Lakers have limited options and may make a deal to try and bolster the roster somewhat. Kuzma was part of the original championship squad.

They are tied to AD/Lebron until lebron calls it quits.

I agree the Lakers may try to make a deal. But this deal has them as bad or worse with less assets and more bad money. I think the move is out there, this is just not it.

I don't think it's terrible for a team like LAL who doesn't mind paying tax, unless you think JHS is gonna become a really good player. A 2nd and parts for Kuzma isn't terrible and his contract is declining. Kuzma is not a great player and certainly not much of a defender. So this is not great the question is does Kuzma help the lakers more than the other guys?

[basketballwacko2]

I remember last season the Wiz thinking they were gonna get 2 #1's for Kuzma.

[gambitx777]

I remember last season the Wiz thinking they were gonna get 2 #1's for Kuzma.

Well they were offered two protected firsts for him and turned it down at kuzmas request. They had a hand shake deal with him and they honored it. Kuzma burned them pretty bad.

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[basketballwacko2]

I remember last season the Wiz thinking they were gonna get 2 #1's for Kuzma.

Well they were offered two protected firsts for him and turned it down at kuzmas request. They had a hand shake deal with him and they honored it. Kuzma burned them pretty bad.

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They should have took that and said, "Sorry buddy but this is business."

[basketballwacko2]

Butler and Richardson for Kuzma, Brogdon, and Davis

Why on the sweet earth would the Wizards want malcontent Butler on their roster? We are trying to collect young talent and build a culture. Butler is as win now a player as anyone in the league.

I agree with you Butler is a very good player still but he's burning his bridges everywhere he goes it seems. Bulls, Wolves, Sixers, now the Heat. Where does he want to be an what is it he really wants?

[esvl]

Nobody really wants Kuzma. Let’s accept this dire fact.

[Texas Chuck]

I remember last season the Wiz thinking they were gonna get 2 #1's for Kuzma.

Well they were offered two protected firsts for him and turned it down at kuzmas request. They had a hand shake deal with him and they honored it. Kuzma burned them pretty bad.

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Who offered this? I know Dallas and Washington had a deal worked out that Kuzma turned down, but I don't recall ever hearing what the Dallas offer was and I'd be shocked if it was 2 firsts considering how little Dallas had to work with. Was there another deal agreed to that Kuzma also turned down or do you have a source on Dallas offering that that I missed maybe?

[Lucky Once]

I remember last season the Wiz thinking they were gonna get 2 #1's for Kuzma.

Well they were offered two protected firsts for him and turned it down at kuzmas request. They had a hand shake deal with him and they honored it. Kuzma burned them pretty bad.

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Who offered this? I know Dallas and Washington had a deal worked out that Kuzma turned down, but I don't recall ever hearing what the Dallas offer was and I'd be shocked if it was 2 firsts considering how little Dallas had to work with. Was there another deal agreed to that Kuzma also turned down or do you have a source on Dallas offering that that I missed maybe?

I don't believe there was ever reporting on what Dallas offered, just that Washington ran the possibility by Kuzma and he declined so they pivoted to Gafford and PJ Washington. I don't think we can just assume that they would have acquired the pick they used for Washington and sent both for Kuzma.

[Texas Chuck]

Well they were offered two protected firsts for him and turned it down at kuzmas request. They had a hand shake deal with him and they honored it. Kuzma burned them pretty bad.

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Who offered this? I know Dallas and Washington had a deal worked out that Kuzma turned down, but I don't recall ever hearing what the Dallas offer was and I'd be shocked if it was 2 firsts considering how little Dallas had to work with. Was there another deal agreed to that Kuzma also turned down or do you have a source on Dallas offering that that I missed maybe?

I don't believe there was ever reporting on what Dallas offered, just that Washington ran the possibility by Kuzma and he declined so they pivoted to Gafford and PJ Washington. I don't think we can just assume that they would have acquired the pick they used for Washington and sent both for Kuzma.

Yeah I don't think we can assume that either, but thought maybe gambit had seen something I never did? Will be interesting to see if they come back with a source to back up that claim. I know we got leaks out of Washington prior to the deadline of them asking for that, but I don't think anyone seriously thought they were getting that.

[OGSactownballer]

Kings out - Huerter, Len, McDermott, McLaughlin, Colby Jones (youth value) a lotto protected ‘28 first that devolves to two seconds if not conveyed.

Wizards out - Kuzma, Val

More contracts can be added if needed and obviously the Wiz buy out/cut most of those vets and keep Huerter as a prospect and next year expiring and Jones.