Lopez to Pistons, RW III to Bucks, THJ to Blazers

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Re: Lopez to Pistons, RW III to Bucks, THJ to Blazers 

Post#41 » by theBigLip » Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:58 pm

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JonHeist wrote:bucks wouldn't be interested in this even if it's to facilitate a khris/bobby for jimmy trade

you can't expect to make a serious playoff run with Giannis and Robert Williams (even if he is miraculously healthy) as your only 4/5s


I think the deal has good bones though. Wonder if it could be slightly expanded

MKE RW3, Stewart, Thybulle, 2nds
DET Lopez, Pat, future 1st
POR THJ, Marjon , 4th team assets
4th team Bobby

I will get flamed by all the teams fans but I think there is merit here to build on…obviously the 4th team and the assets going to Portland is a big chunk to figure out


It would have to be a good first for the Pistons to give up Stewart.
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Re: Lopez to Pistons, RW III to Bucks, THJ to Blazers 

Post#42 » by Walton1one » Thu Jan 23, 2025 9:04 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:He is fine when he plays. But he doesn't play enough. I think an expiring or a similar 2 year deal with a 2nd or two is really his value. I know some think he might even return a heavily protected first.

But this deadline will tell us for sure. Because if he doesn't move its because I'm right and Portland decides they'd rather have the insurance/mentoring(Blazer fans talk about him doing this) than just clear the money. But they are never keeping him over getting real value of any kind because he's out of place on a team with a max guy and a mid lotto pick at his position.


Yes & No.

RW3 is under contract for another year, so if the only offers out there are a couple of 2nd's, POR probably waits and could deal him next year for likely the same price. Now if he gets injured again? All bets are off, that is why I would rather see him traded sooner, rather than later, but POR GM doesn't see it that way apparently. I also don't think he will re-sign with POR, but we are talking about a GM who isn't afraid to throw bad contracts to keep players on the team.

He matched Thybulle after all, which is fine (debateable) if you are going to preserve an asset and trade him, but he has a PO next year and could conceivably walk for nothing, so why match in the first place? POR GM makes moves that make little to no sense IMO.

But offloading RW3 in a deal just to clear money? I don't see that happening.
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Re: Lopez to Pistons, RW III to Bucks, THJ to Blazers 

Post#43 » by M-C-G » Thu Jan 23, 2025 9:24 pm

theBigLip wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
JonHeist wrote:bucks wouldn't be interested in this even if it's to facilitate a khris/bobby for jimmy trade

you can't expect to make a serious playoff run with Giannis and Robert Williams (even if he is miraculously healthy) as your only 4/5s


I think the deal has good bones though. Wonder if it could be slightly expanded

MKE RW3, Stewart, Thybulle, 2nds
DET Lopez, Pat, future 1st
POR THJ, Marjon , 4th team assets
4th team Bobby

I will get flamed by all the teams fans but I think there is merit here to build on…obviously the 4th team and the assets going to Portland is a big chunk to figure out


It would have to be a good first for the Pistons to give up Stewart.


I think the way this works is that the Bucks give up a lightly protected 31 first to Detroit, Detroit could pony up the seconds that get Portland to accept and maybe Portis going out gives the Bucks a weak first round pick in the future to at least have an asset. But I have not looked into available picks from different teams, just saying we are in the ball park for most of the teams.
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Re: Lopez to Pistons, RW III to Bucks, THJ to Blazers 

Post#44 » by tmorgan » Thu Jan 23, 2025 9:38 pm

Yeah, still don’t think we have any interest in trading Stewart. I mean sure, if it’s a big overpay with a near immediate payoff, sure, but no one’s going to offer that.
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Re: Lopez to Pistons, RW III to Bucks, THJ to Blazers 

Post#45 » by JonHeist » Thu Jan 23, 2025 10:52 pm

not to be rude, but is beef stew even good?

tbh I don't really watch pistons games unless they're playing the bucks, but he has not looked like someone worth a FRP from what I've seen
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Re: Lopez to Pistons, RW III to Bucks, THJ to Blazers 

Post#46 » by tmorgan » Fri Jan 24, 2025 12:43 am

I’ve had this conversation many times already. I’ll pass this time.
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Re: Lopez to Pistons, RW III to Bucks, THJ to Blazers 

Post#47 » by DaVoiceMaster » Fri Jan 24, 2025 2:28 am

I'm not a Bucks fan so what do i know, but do they want to give up Lopez? RW3 is a better defender, but Lopez spreads the foor so Giannis can hang down low. RW3 will clog the lane.
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Re: Lopez to Pistons, RW III to Bucks, THJ to Blazers 

Post#48 » by Texas Chuck » Fri Jan 24, 2025 2:35 am

Robert Willams is not a better defender than Brook Lopez who has been one of the best defenders in the entire Association during his Bucks tenure.
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Re: Lopez to Pistons, RW III to Bucks, THJ to Blazers 

Post#49 » by mcfly1204 » Fri Jan 24, 2025 2:35 am

DaVoiceMaster wrote:I'm not a Bucks fan so what do i know, but do they want to give up Lopez? RW3 is a better defender, but Lopez spreads the foor so Giannis can hang down low. RW3 will clog the lane.

I don't think you have to worry about Williams clogging the lane from the bench in street clothes.
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Re: Lopez to Pistons, RW III to Bucks, THJ to Blazers 

Post#50 » by DaVoiceMaster » Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:25 am

Texas Chuck wrote:Robert Willams is not a better defender than Brook Lopez who has been one of the best defenders in the entire Association during his Bucks tenure.


Perhaps. I don't watch many Bucks games. My point was more that I think they'd miss his offensive game.
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Re: Lopez to Pistons, RW III to Bucks, THJ to Blazers 

Post#51 » by DetroitSho » Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:42 pm

tmorgan wrote:I’ve had this conversation many times already. I’ll pass this time.
And I think I've read every single conversation too. Lol

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