Claxton to LAL

[babyjax13]

Lakers trade: 2029 LAL 1st, Rui Hachimura, Gabe Vincent, 2025 LAC 2nd
Nets trade: Nic Claxton

The Lakers get the center AD is asking for. Claxton is mobile, a good rim protector, and this is ... just something different than all the Kessler trades (and a different archetype, a similar trade to Kessler would be targeting Poeltl).

The Nets cash out Claxton, give Hachimura some run to see if he can be flipped next year, and see what they have in Sharpe as a starter.

[esvl]

Seems light

[Texas Chuck]

Seems about right. He got paid top of market which some may not have adjusted to and he's not taken expected steps forward. An unprotected first post the Lakers stars and a bunch of financial relief is great value.

I disagree with AD that they should be investing heavily in center over other needs, but he would definitely help the Lakers. But moving Lebron down the lineup defensively...

[OutsidetheNBA]

I think any Center going to LA needs to be able to shoot a little bit because AD doesn't shoot 3s anymore. Vuc, Olynyk, maybe even Miles Turner if the Pacers aren't actually interested in resigning him at the number he'll want.

That said, I like this better than most of the trades where the Lakers send out a pick because at least Claxton should still be playing at a high level in '29.

[zimpy27]

I don't really get why Nets do this. Shouldn't they be trying to hold Claxton and rebuild?

I think value is fair

[babyjax13]

Seems light

I debated on adding a pick swap. Do you think that would be the right amount of additional value?

[babyjax13]

I don't really get why Nets do this. Shouldn't they be trying to hold Claxton and rebuild?

I think value is fair

I'll just be honest in saying that I think Claxton has been severely overrated. I don't think he is worth his contract, and to me ... his BPM is relatively pedestrian for a center getting paid what he is. That said, I think he is still useful and a good starter, so I have LA paying what I am judging to be the cost of swapping bench players on meh contracts for a long-term starter that fills a significant need.

[Texas Chuck]

I don't really get why Nets do this. Shouldn't they be trying to hold Claxton and rebuild?

I think value is fair

I'll just be honest in saying that I think Claxton has been severely overrated. I don't think he is worth his contract, and to me ... his BPM is relatively pedestrian for a center getting paid what he is. That said, I think he is still useful and a good starter, so I have LA paying what I am judging to be the cost of swapping bench players on meh contracts for a long-term starter that fills a significant need.

Yep he was a 2nd round pick who hit. The unexpected nature of that causes people to inflate the value. Then he was cheap. That helped his value. But now he's gotten a big payday. He's a lower end starter making starter money. There is no real excess value here, but he is useful enough you can trade him for worse players and a little sweetener.

But too often on this board we don't adjust values as contracts change, or as players age past the idea of a lot of untapped potential still. Its just in our mind he's this cheap, athletic good defensive center with upside. But that's not him any longer.

[babyjax13]

I don't really get why Nets do this. Shouldn't they be trying to hold Claxton and rebuild?

I think value is fair

I'll just be honest in saying that I think Claxton has been severely overrated. I don't think he is worth his contract, and to me ... his BPM is relatively pedestrian for a center getting paid what he is. That said, I think he is still useful and a good starter, so I have LA paying what I am judging to be the cost of swapping bench players on meh contracts for a long-term starter that fills a significant need.

Yep he was a 2nd round pick who hit. The unexpected nature of that causes people to inflate the value. Then he was cheap. That helped his value. But now he's gotten a big payday. He's a lower end starter making starter money. There is no real excess value here, but he is useful enough you can trade him for worse players and a little sweetener.

But too often on this board we don't adjust values as contracts change, or as players age past the idea of a lot of untapped potential still. Its just in our mind he's this cheap, athletic good defensive center with upside. But that's not him any longer.

I think people saw his 2022-23 season as 'typical' of his level of play, and that just hasn't been the case.

[esvl]

Seems light

I debated on adding a pick swap. Do you think that would be the right amount of additional value?

It would be. Then the Nets would need to make a directional decision as it is not clear why would they be in any rush on trading Clax.

[Astaluego]

I think any Center going to LA needs to be able to shoot a little bit because AD doesn't shoot 3s anymore. Vuc, Olynyk, maybe even Miles Turner if the Pacers aren't actually interested in resigning him at the number he'll want.

That said, I like this better than most of the trades where the Lakers send out a pick because at least Claxton should still be playing at a high level in '29.

That's what I thought... I think J.Collins would make a lot of sense, he gives them an interior presence and he can also play alongside AD

[drchaos]

I think any Center going to LA needs to be able to shoot a little bit because AD doesn't shoot 3s anymore. Vuc, Olynyk, maybe even Miles Turner if the Pacers aren't actually interested in resigning him at the number he'll want.

That said, I like this better than most of the trades where the Lakers send out a pick because at least Claxton should still be playing at a high level in '29.

That's what I thought... I think J.Collins would make a lot of sense, he gives them an interior presence and he can also play alongside AD

Clax to Utah, Collins to Lakers, Rui to Nets could work as long as the Nets are getting enough assets to make it worthwhile.

[babyjax13]

I think any Center going to LA needs to be able to shoot a little bit because AD doesn't shoot 3s anymore. Vuc, Olynyk, maybe even Miles Turner if the Pacers aren't actually interested in resigning him at the number he'll want.

That said, I like this better than most of the trades where the Lakers send out a pick because at least Claxton should still be playing at a high level in '29.

That's what I thought... I think J.Collins would make a lot of sense, he gives them an interior presence and he can also play alongside AD

Clax to Utah, Collins to Lakers, Rui to Nets could work as long as the Nets are getting enough assets to make it worthwhile.

I don't see us having any interest in Claxton.

[Astaluego]

I think any Center going to LA needs to be able to shoot a little bit because AD doesn't shoot 3s anymore. Vuc, Olynyk, maybe even Miles Turner if the Pacers aren't actually interested in resigning him at the number he'll want.

That said, I like this better than most of the trades where the Lakers send out a pick because at least Claxton should still be playing at a high level in '29.

That's what I thought... I think J.Collins would make a lot of sense, he gives them an interior presence and he can also play alongside AD

Clax to Utah, Collins to Lakers, Rui to Nets could work as long as the Nets are getting enough assets to make it worthwhile.

with Kessler you are served...I don't think you need another defensive oriented center who can't shoot... I was thinking Hachimura+Filler + corresponding asset

[JB2]

Value aside, Lakers are left with Bronny as backup point which is a disaster. I guess Fultz can be signed but ehh.

If the Lakers are willing to trade a 1st, I think the JHS + 27 1st protections removed + 29 1st for Kessler makes more sense.

[nzahir]

If we are going for an expensive C, I rather some of the other guys tbh

Claxton has had a much worse year this year negative EPM by a lot rn and a negative LEBRON

If our C isn't a floor spacer and hes more of a mobile big, then I want to keep Rui and move Vando

Vando+Vincent+JHS+salary filler for Claxton+salary filler

Still rather have Kessler with his low salary if were moving a 1st

Stretch bigs that can defend like Turner and Brook Lopez also preferred

We still have the issue of no #3 playmaker and now have no salary to do anything, unless were moving Knecht or Rui

Does Claxton even help vs Jokic?

[nykballa2k4]

Claxton is a terrible idea. He is a replacement level rim running center. iHart just got that massive payday, looked like an overpay, and he is a better center than Clax.

trading a coveted FRP and a SRP when there are better options on the market, possibly even for a better price, would be irresponsible.

[dms269]

If we are going for an expensive C, I rather some of the other guys tbh

Claxton has had a much worse year this year negative EPM by a lot rn and a negative LEBRON

If our C isn't a floor spacer and hes more of a mobile big, then I want to keep Rui and move Vando

Vando+Vincent+JHS+salary filler for Claxton+salary filler

Still rather have Kessler with his low salary if were moving a 1st

Stretch bigs that can defend like Turner and Brook Lopez also preferred

We still have the issue of no #3 playmaker and now have no salary to do anything, unless were moving Knecht or Rui

Does Claxton even help vs Jokic?

The Nets would get SIGNIFICANTLY better offers than having to take on two players who most of the league consider to be negative value.

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[nykballa2k4]

If we are going for an expensive C, I rather some of the other guys tbh

Claxton has had a much worse year this year negative EPM by a lot rn and a negative LEBRON

If our C isn't a floor spacer and hes more of a mobile big, then I want to keep Rui and move Vando

Vando+Vincent+JHS+salary filler for Claxton+salary filler

Still rather have Kessler with his low salary if were moving a 1st

Stretch bigs that can defend like Turner and Brook Lopez also preferred

We still have the issue of no #3 playmaker and now have no salary to do anything, unless were moving Knecht or Rui

Does Claxton even help vs Jokic?

The Nets would get SIGNIFICANTLY better offers than having to take on two players who most of the league consider to be negative value.

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I don't think so. I think that most of Claxton's value with his current contract is ability to match/eat someone else's salary. No one is paying him 30M free market.