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Post#1 » by Saul Goodman » Sat Jan 25, 2025 5:33 pm

To Toronto
Jusuf Nurkic
Dwight Powell
Dante Exum
Maxi Kleber
2025 Dallas 1st top 10 protected




To Phoenix
Daniel Gafford


To Dallas
Jakob Poetl
Kelly olynk
2025 Cleveland 1st



Dallas trades down 10 spots to get a real upgrade at both the 5 and in some depth.

Phoenix uses one pick to do this deal and the other two to get butler.

Raptors get another 1st while improving the tank
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Re: Raptors/suns/mavericks 

Post#2 » by Apz » Sat Jan 25, 2025 5:38 pm

Saul Goodman wrote:To Toronto
Jusuf Nurkic
Dwight Powell
Dante Exum
Maxi Kleber
2025 Dallas 1st top 10 protected




To Phoenix
Daniel Gafford


To Dallas
Jakob Poetl
Kelly olynk
2025 Cleveland 1st



Dallas trades down 10 spots to get a real upgrade at both the 5 and in some depth.

Phoenix uses one pick to do this deal and the other two to get butler.

Raptors get another 1st while improving the tank


Cant see upgradin backup center is worth a 1st, and imo how good of a rimprotector is poetl?

Mavs cant sen out the 1st for not a real upgrade until everyone is back and they know where they stand this season. If luka have backlash and is out rest of season mavs are better off keeping the pick
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Re: Raptors/suns/mavericks 

Post#3 » by Godaddycurse » Sat Jan 25, 2025 5:40 pm

pretty sure this is illegal for dallas. leave out Olynyk and powell/exum. would also make it toronto receive better of DAL/CLE 1st so if they someone end up in 10th we dont end up with nothing
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Re: Raptors/suns/mavericks 

Post#4 » by Texas Chuck » Sat Jan 25, 2025 5:44 pm

yeah Dallas is hard capped at the first apron so they cannot make the deal in the OP. godaddy's edit solves that issue but makes Dallas even thinner and they pay to get there. I doubt Poeltl moves the needle enough to justify that.
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Re: Raptors/suns/mavericks 

Post#5 » by jayjaysee » Sat Jan 25, 2025 5:45 pm

If the Dallas pick doesn’t convey, Toronto gets the Cleveland first? To me there’s like a 5-10% chance Dallas is ending the season with Luka in street clothes and tanking, so some clarity on the pick is needed..

I think Poeltl is worth more than Gafford, and Kelly more than Maxi. Feels like Toronto is owed more honestly. But wouldn’t lower the protections on that pick.

Edits: Godaddy beat me..


Doesn’t kill the trade but Dallas needs to send out another about 2.5-3 million just to be able to sign a couple rest of season contracts and make the trade/roster legal.

Which means you probably need to move on from Grimes as part of this. Maybe you find a useful bench guard on a minimum contract somewhere to help out or dream of a buy out?

And Toronto gets whatever amount of 2nds Grimes is worth?
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Re: Raptors/suns/mavericks 

Post#6 » by Godaddycurse » Sat Jan 25, 2025 6:32 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:yeah Dallas is hard capped at the first apron so they cannot make the deal in the OP. godaddy's edit solves that issue but makes Dallas even thinner and they pay to get there. I doubt Poeltl moves the needle enough to justify that.


Maybe something like this to keep kleber

Phoenix out: Allen, Nurkic
Phoenix in: Vincent, Gafford, JHS

Orlando out: Anthony, worse of DEN/ORL 2025 1st
Orlando in: Allen, Wood

Dallas out: Gafford, Klay, Exum, top 10 protected swap with DEN/ORL 2025 1st (becomes PHI 2025 2nd if doesnt convey)
Dallas in: Poeltl, Anthony

LAL out: Vincent, Wood, JHS
LAL in: Klay

Toronto out: Poeltl
Toronto in: Nurkic, Vincent, better of DAL top 10 protected or DEN/ORL 2025 1st
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Re: Raptors/suns/mavericks 

Post#7 » by daoneandonly » Sat Jan 25, 2025 6:37 pm

Dallas shouldn't give up a swap of any sort for the marginal upgrade of Gaff to Yakob when it also means giving Klay to LA while getting Cole back
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